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chonga mama, YM lo unnava? unte IM me @ plz_kissme


eppatinuncho matladudam anukuntunna
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Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 12:26 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

PKM babai, suryudini addam pettinaa aa arachetini aapalemaa ?
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chonga babai

i didnt comment on pavan but was little supportive.
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Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 12:24 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Chonga mama, nuvvu critic mama ani ala anatam, AND

Nenu Nivas and AW mama lani sollu posts aapandi ani anatam emi bagoledu mama!
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Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 12:15 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Amar bhai, alaa vetukkuntoo pothe chaala bayata padutaayi....

nenu ippudu tavvanu le.....

Critic babai,

naaku ento sepu pattadu Jr ni, balayya ni, even Sr NTR ni anataaniki....enduku seppu adantaa ??

Pls...keep the thread clean
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Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 12:01 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

"who da fcuk said PK commited suicide?"

LOL

then who da fcuk said he is murderer??
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Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 11:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

TI

i dont mean exclusively u.
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Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 11:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

lol


who da fcuk said PK commited suicide?
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Paritala meda thread yevadovesado choosi matladu

TK mama kosam veyaledu, lekapote enta sepu
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Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 11:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

"I found Johnny to be the best movie in PK�s career in terms of technical finesse, direction and treatment."

"Balu � ABCDEFG, tasted success at the box office."

" If I want to see a mass thriller, I will go to a Chiranjeevi or Nagarjuna movie."


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power of indian is not an attitude, born to win is definitely an attitude.

indulo convenience emundi, edo paritala meeda poyaka threads vestunaru kada aa pani lo undandi.
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Power of indian, meda kuda comment cheyi
oops forgot convienenct asbentia

V family u pros proverb kada
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Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 10:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Critic mari
PBN lo poonakam scene choosi virati puta lead, meaningless scenes kanapadaleda, kollu
thodakotti chair scenes

mari VV enti boss, train kinda padukovtam
Mundu mero hero enni meaningless movies unnayo choosi PK meda eduvacchu

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Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 10:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

"murderer"

suicide sesukunevallu born to win ettukotalla mari.
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Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 10:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

lol critic mama, buddi choopinchukunnav kada

crying ante ento choopisthunnaru kada N fans


Amar mama, its better than Power of an indian..

anavasaramga indian paruvu teesadu aa caption petti, he should think b4 goin for that.
a murderer shouldnt go for those kinda captions
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critic mama

anta maata anesavu enti papam, he has just little attitude but now I hope he is back to his realization.

Tammudu ki poster "Born to Win" anta as he if he is not going to have any failures at all.
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Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 8:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

God Save us from Pawan Kalyan - Psycho Guy
I saw flop movies, Meaningless movies but not
movies which will make u allergic .

I couldn't digest Gudumba for 15 minutes
that movie scared me to the extent. PK is hard to digest on screen. He is a real Psycho.

Pawan Kalyan - Upendra of Tollywood.
We can imagine what's in store for us from this rotten guy.
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Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 7:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Me too.

denekka eeeyy antam max antadu. First half lo aa manerisms kevv assalu.
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Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 7:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

"Balu – ABCDEFG, a movie which is not half as good as Gudumba Shankar, tasted success at the box office"

My sentiments exactly. I enjoyed GS much better than Balu.
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Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 1:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Balu – ABCDEFG, a movie which is not half as good as Gudumba Shankar

donno bout that, i am watchin BALU today and will post my comments on tat point:-)
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He can now churn out meaningless Formula pictures and get hits under his belly. But there are some people in this world who love him for what he is capable of; who like offbeat movies like Johnny. And these people are going to be disappointed because their only hope had given in to the pressure of the box office. It is sad that Pawan Kalyan left it all after just a couple of duds.



donno wether u r talkin for pk or agaisnt him there.. mama, Balu PK movie kaadu, its dutts movie. I heard, Aswini dutt and, D.Ramanaidu are the producers who wont let others to involve in the movie. GS PK valla fail aindi ani andaru anesariki, dutt bhayapadiuntadu. Andukani PK ni asalu cheyyi pettanivvaledu. My bro watched the movie and he was disapointed, cinema bagoledani kaadu, cinema normal cinemalga undani.

Platypus mam, okka balu ni example ga teesukuni pawan maaripoyadu, etc, i think ala anatam thappu
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Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 1:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Excellent Article...

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neeku seppaga bunny and jhonny la gurinchi
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Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 12:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

//first time use chesaanu, nannu odiley....

sorry chonga mama...neevu edo jr ni annavu ani use cheyyaledhu...neevu kuda andari laga compare chestunte avesapadda...swarrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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>>why in the hell are you bringing JR into the picture...that means can't you support your hero

NEO babai ki alaage cheppaali le mama.......first time use chesaanu, nannu odiley....
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kani neo cheppina daantlo kuda point undhi...pavan variety try chesindi ekkada..okkatanna novel subject teesukunnada...

consider the example of anand....ippudu anand lo pavan act chesi unte ganuka hit ayyedha...kadhu anukunta...ante enti mana thinking lo change ravali...adhi eppatiki jaragadhu...
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//aadini marsipotaaro ledu gaani, mee NTR ani seppukone Jr gaadini appude marsipoyaaru... //

why in the hell are you bringing JR into the picture...that means can't you support your hero.

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Indiainfo mama,

poyyi platypus ki cheppu mama....
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excellent article mama....
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>>andaru jhonny gadini marsipotaru

aadini marsipotaaro ledu gaani, mee NTR ani seppukone Jr gaadini appude marsipoyaaru...


Johnny lu enni teesinaa parledu....

>>Johnny challenged The Formula. It went against the tide. And it drowned. The unsinkable Titanic had finally given in. Pawan Kalyan registered a flop, one of colossal proportions and he himself was responsible for it. It was a great movie with perfect treatment and excellent performances. The only drawback was that the audience did not understand what the movie was all about. They wanted to see Pawan Kalyan and were disappointed because the script rose above the star in this case. The love story was tender not loud. The chemistry between the lead pair was remarkable but not flashy. It was a subtle expression of celluloid magic not the pretentious cacophony of cliché-ridden Formula.


ilaantivi konnannaa vinabadindaa Andhrawala ki ??
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ardham ayyindi babai

remake lu preemakes sesukuni hits kottadu

pinal gaa meaningless formula ade malli remake sese hit kottali


lekapothe bunny will overtake jhonny and else where andaru jhonny gadini marsipotaru
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>>He can now churn out meaningless Formula pictures and get hits under his belly in otherwords, follow Chiru, NBK ,even NTR {Jr} ani artham kada babai ??

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Balu – ABCDEFG, a movie which is not half as good as Gudumba Shankar, tasted success at the box office. Finally the ordeal was over for Pawan Kalyan. He can now churn out meaningless Formula pictures and get hits under his belly


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emi babai ??
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God once told me when I was dreaming about him: “Why should you worry about my dice playing capabilities. Why can’t you just accept things as they are and move on?”

Of course I am sure He was referring to the Einstein remark there but I am sure He wouldn’t mind it if I applied it to the movies of Pawan Kalyan. God created Pawan Kalyan and gave him a distinct personality. However when it came to choosing Pawan’s audience and fans, God assumed they should be like the rest of the mob. No different.

The result is pretty apparent for everyone who has been following Pawan Kalyan since his Tholi Prema. Pawan Kalyan’s era is divided into two parts now. Post Tholi Prema and Pre Tholi Prema. The Pre Tholi Prema version of Pawan Kalyan was not someone you could write home about. However the paradigm shift in his image and the quality of his movies started with Tholi Prema and was perfected by the crew of Khushi.

So that was what God might have said during Genesis. “Roses, Roses and More Roses” for Pawan Kalyan. However what is life without a little sinusoidal reversal of fortune?

He roared, “Let there be a Johnny”. And there was a disaster. The rose marathon had ended. It had given way to the thorn. At least that was how most PK fans felt.

Subscribing to a radically different school of thought (but not necessarily a superior school of thought), I found Johnny to be the best movie in PK’s career in terms of technical finesse, direction and treatment. The story had no takers in Andhra Pradesh but that doesn’t mean it was a bad film. Sometimes you have a perfect script and a perfect movie but the audience denounces it completely. Then you get into the dangerous art of introspection and come up with reasons why the movie did not work.

Almost all these introspections generally contradict the analyses in the pre-release reports. The pre-release report says that Scene-119 was great because it was handled different. The introspection report says that Scene-119 was the main reason why the movie flopped. The scene was handled messily.

Johnny suffered a fate it should not have. It went into the annals of history as a movie that didn’t and couldn’t. I would rather list it as a masterful movie that misguided Pawan Kalyan.

The reaction to Johnny made everyone sit up and notice Pawan Kalyan. Everyone was commenting how Johnny should have been made. In fact Jeevi of Idlebrain.com opined that the movie should serve as the textbook of “How Not to Direct a Movie”. The assumption was that the audience wanted a “normal” movie. Experiments were OK as long as they fitted broadly into the framework evolved over the years also known as The Formula of Telugu Movies.

Johnny challenged The Formula. It went against the tide. And it drowned. The unsinkable Titanic had finally given in. Pawan Kalyan registered a flop, one of colossal proportions and he himself was responsible for it. It was a great movie with perfect treatment and excellent performances. The only drawback was that the audience did not understand what the movie was all about. They wanted to see Pawan Kalyan and were disappointed because the script rose above the star in this case. The love story was tender not loud. The chemistry between the lead pair was remarkable but not flashy. It was a subtle expression of celluloid magic not the pretentious cacophony of cliché-ridden Formula.

The disaster of Johnny caused another twist to Pawan Kalyan’s career. He realized that he had to stop trying for the perfect movie. All he had to do was to come up with a movie which would be liked by his fans. He had this obligation. He had to satisfy them. Though he had never conveyed to anybody that he would follow The Fomula, he had to finally succumb to the pressure of his fans. In my opinion this was the greatest damage done by Johnny. The financials are of course important. However instead of persisting with the new wave of cinema and making a bold statement to the world that he would not change, Pawan Kalyan chose to shun it all and try treading the beaten-to-death path.

Of course, nobody could change overnight. Pawan Kalyan also had some inertia and his next release, Gudumba Shankar, was at best described as a half-baked product which tried to do justice to both his heart and his mind. It was a clear case of confused loyalties. It was neither here nor there. Though financially it fared much better than Johnny, it still was a flop.

The public opinion was subtle but clear. No one shall rise above the Fomula. He should respect it. Gudumba Shankar was the last nail on the coffin of the creative genius in Pawan Kalyan. He went back to his Tholi Prema director to give him a face-lift. He stopped his quest for meaningful and creative cinema.

God has finally succeeded in changing him according to his fans.

Balu – ABCDEFG, a movie which is not half as good as Gudumba Shankar, tasted success at the box office. Finally the ordeal was over for Pawan Kalyan. He can now churn out meaningless Formula pictures and get hits under his belly. But there are some people in this world who love him for what he is capable of; who like offbeat movies like Johnny. And these people are going to be disappointed because their only hope had given in to the pressure of the box office. It is sad that Pawan Kalyan left it all after just a couple of duds.

Balu may be a sound hit. Balu may bring back smiles on faces of the distributors. However for serious movie fans, Balu is a routine movie and Pawan Kalyan has become a routine star just like his big brother.

Sometimes I want to scream, “If I want to see a mass thriller, I will go to a Chiranjeevi or Nagarjuna movie. I don’t want Pawan Kalyan donning those roles.”

God tells me as-a-matter-of-factly, “I don’t play dice my boy! I really don’t”. I want to believe Him. He really knows what He is doing.

Regards
Platy.

BTW, This is just my personal opinion and I am not asking any of you to agree to what I have written here.


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