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Conqueror
Pilla Bewarse Username: Conqueror
Post Number: 383 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 61.19.223.131
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 22, 2005 - 6:07 pm: | |
ohh adi naa paytyam aaa.. |
Kasakbabu
Vooriki Bewarse Username: Kasakbabu
Post Number: 3738 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 202.141.43.24
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 22, 2005 - 6:06 pm: | |
malli ippudu cinemaa soottaa postuthunnaadu |
Bhrigu
Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Bhrigu
Post Number: 6058 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.228.253.113
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 22, 2005 - 6:04 pm: | |
GF uu, 'which' undadu |
Bhrigu
Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Bhrigu
Post Number: 6057 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.228.253.113
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 22, 2005 - 6:03 pm: | |
Brad mama, nee rangula jollu theesesi choodu BLACK cinema ni .. |
Conqueror
Pilla Bewarse Username: Conqueror
Post Number: 382 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 61.19.223.131
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 22, 2005 - 6:03 pm: | |
make an offer which he cant refuse.. |
Bhrigu
Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Bhrigu
Post Number: 6055 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.228.253.113
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 22, 2005 - 6:01 pm: | |
>> memu edo telsukovalani jignasa! baundi baundi .. no more comments .. |
Brad
Bewarse ke Bewarse! Username: Brad
Post Number: 19359 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 204.99.118.9
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 22, 2005 - 5:56 pm: | |
maharsi , tunts |
Techie
Kurra Bewarse Username: Techie
Post Number: 1000 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 192.127.94.7
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 22, 2005 - 5:56 pm: | |
just trying to learn things brighu mama! memu edo telsukovalani jignasa! |
Bhrigu
Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Bhrigu
Post Number: 6053 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.228.253.113
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 22, 2005 - 5:54 pm: | |
Brad mama, monitor naakindi chaalle gaani, elli black choodu |
Kasakbabu
Vooriki Bewarse Username: Kasakbabu
Post Number: 3735 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 202.141.43.24
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 22, 2005 - 5:53 pm: | |
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Brad
Bewarse ke Bewarse! Username: Brad
Post Number: 19356 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 204.99.118.9
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 22, 2005 - 5:53 pm: | |
maharsi |
Bhrigu
Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Bhrigu
Post Number: 6051 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.228.253.113
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 22, 2005 - 5:52 pm: | |
vaammoooo.. endidanthaaa ? |
Sollu
Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Sollu
Post Number: 8267 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 144.160.130.16
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 22, 2005 - 5:52 pm: | |
mods plz ban brad babai he's using world's biggest boothulu on me |
Brad
Bewarse ke Bewarse! Username: Brad
Post Number: 19354 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 204.99.118.9
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 22, 2005 - 5:51 pm: | |
siranjeevi kanipithannadu mana tuntilo nuvvu Allu A vi kaadu gaaaa.. |
Sollu
Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Sollu
Post Number: 8264 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 144.160.130.16
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 22, 2005 - 5:49 pm: | |
mamulu form kadu naaku ayithe siranjeevi kanipithannadu mana tuntilo |
Brad
Bewarse ke Bewarse! Username: Brad
Post Number: 19350 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 204.99.118.9
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 22, 2005 - 5:46 pm: | |
tunts matter sadavaledu kaani, full form lo vunnattu vunnav gaa......... |
Techie
Kurra Bewarse Username: Techie
Post Number: 998 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 192.127.94.7
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 22, 2005 - 5:45 pm: | |
by Andrew Jacobs, Debate Coach and Assistant Professor of Speech, SUNY Rockland, and PeoplesForum.com member. Like playing chess or sports, debating is a skill that can be dramatically improved if you receive the right coaching. The following tips aren't rocket science -- they should remind you of what you already do when you argue well. The difficulty that most people have with any activity they engage in without training is that they can't explain why a particular effort succeeded or failed. Without an awareness of the principles of debate, people will occasionally make brilliant arguments, but can't consistently duplicate their successes. The following tips attempt to lay bare the basic processes that consistently produce good argumentation. They should help you think up better arguments, understand the structure of an argument, and identify a range of common counter-arguments. Beginning students of debate should self-consciously employ these practices. Use this tip sheet as a checklist if need be. As you become more familiar with the principles you will begin to apply them so automatically that the process will become instinctive. Once you are aware of the moves you and your opponent are making you can begin to think strategically. It is strategic awareness that distinguishes the occasionally victorious novice from the consistently successful experienced debater. 1. Think of as Many Arguments as Possible. No argument is too stupid to entertain. I'm not saying you should make every argument you think up, but at least give yourself the freedom to think along unconventional lines. Some of the best arguments are created this way. Once you have brainstormed every possible argument you can critically evaluate them. If you are critical of yourself during the brainstorm you will short-circuit the process. 2. After the Brainstorm, Push Yourself Further There is always one more good argument lurking in your head. The ones that are hardest to think up are often the hardest to defeat. Use this strategy with Tip #6: Utilize a Variety of Arguments. Think of one more argument for each of those categories. 3. Have Multiple Answers Give three reasons. No matter what argument you are making or attacking, strive to give a minimum of three distinct reasons. In everyday conversation we rarely have the chance to make more than one argument on a topic before someone responds. This creates the bad habit of thinking in single arguments. Break free of this habit by thinking, three. 4. Create Multiple Layers of Attack/Defense Debaters often put all their eggs in one argumentative basket. If their basic argument fails, they lose. Make sure you are using a variety of arguments and don't dismiss an argument simply because it seems easy to defeat. Arguments that look weak to you may appear insurmountable to your opponent. Throw everything at your opponent and see what works. This is especially important because the reverse may also be true: arguments which you thought were invincible are often crushed with alarming ease by your opponents. Debaters often use a single argumentative theme because they have fallen victim to the hobgoblin known as consistency. Escape this demon by using two little words: even if. Let's say you are defending Bill Clinton against removal from office. You could say, Even if Bill Clinton is guilty of perjury, it doesn't warrant removal from office. This way, you get to argue he is innocent, but also get to say being guilty isn't grounds for removal. 5. Recognize the Clash of Values Despite the strategic importance of creating multiple layers of attack and defense, debaters can usually identify key underlying values that are in conflict in every controversy. Should cops be able to search a car without a warrant? The societal value of privacy clashes with the value of security. Should citizens be able to invest their social security money any way they want? Individual freedom clashes with public welfare. No matter what you are debating, identify the values that seem to be in conflict. If you can prove on a philosophical level that your value should always take priority, you will win no matter what the facts of the matter regarding automobile searches, social security, or whatever. Value based attacks are very powerful and much overlooked weapons in debaters' arsenals. 6. Utilize a variety of arguments Arguments fall into a variety of classifications. Recognizing different kinds of arguments helps you to think them up and to think strategically about debating. a. Take-outs This is probably the most common type of argument. A take-out eliminates the opposing argument. Any time a person says, "No," they are making a take-out argument. For example, suppose that your opponent claims that Europe's population must be rising because the entire world's population is growing. You could take out the claim by citing a more specific study showing that European population is declining. b. Presses A press is a demand for more information. For example, imagine that your opponent cites a death penalty study showing that after capital punishment was instituted, murder rates declined. You might ask, "Does the study rule out other factors for the decline in murder rates such as the decline in drug use, more effective policing, or a declining population of juveniles (a group that tends to commit more violent crimes)?" The best presses are worded so that absent a good answer the original argument is taken out. So the above press might conclude with, "If my opponent cannot rule out these factors for the decline in murder rates, we shouldn't assume institution of the death penalty is responsible." Presses work on the principle that "he who asserts must prove." Too often debaters respond to statistical studies by saying, "that's not true," and their opponent simply says, "prove it." The press in the above example becomes a take-out without incurring any burden of proof. c. Turn-Arounds In a turn-around, an argument supporting one side becomes an argument for the other side. For example, suppose your opponent says that the TV rating system will decrease the amount of sex and violence viewed by children, you might argue that the rating system creates a forbidden fruit effect. When a movie is rated as not suitable for some viewers, children get curious and want to know what it is they shouldn't see. Ratings may spotlight troublesome programs and perversely increase child viewer-ship. This is a classic turn-around. Turns are often hard to think up at first, but become easier with practice. One key to thinking of them is to remember to look for them. Say to yourself, is it possible that what is bad is actually good (or vice versa)? d. Counter-plans Whenever a person calls for a particular action to be taken, the opponent can argue for a different course of action, or counter-plan. When Republicans called for impeachment of President Clinton, some Democrats called for censure- a counter-plan. Because counter-plans are usually game winning arguments you should use them whenever possible. Try to think of three of them. Counter-plans are also great to use with that nifty little phrase, "even if," described in tip #4. e. Disadvantages Most plans of action have bad side-effects even when they work. These side effects are disadvantages. Whatever course of action your opponent comes up with, try to think of problems the course of action might create. 7. Examine your opponent's arguments carefully Most argumentative confusion occurs when debaters talk past one another. A debater argues one thing, the other thinks the argument is something else, and confusion reigns. For example, if your opponent says Bill Clinton is good, what does your opponent mean? Bill Clinton is morally good? Clinton is an effective president? Clinton is an effective politician? You can't beat your opponent if you don't know what s/he is saying. 8. Respond to every argument Don't forget to respond to every argument and don't ignore arguments (even if you think they are silly). You never know how a judge will feel about an argument, so you need to deal with them all. One more thing, don't respond by saying an argument is silly (or ludicrous etc.); explain why the argument shouldn't be taken seriously. You never know what bizarre argument will seem sane and sober to a judge. 9. Think like Your Opponent … Be Your Opponent. Debaters must debate to convince their opponents not themselves. Rooms filled with pro-lifers can't understand why pro-choicers think the way they do. Rooms filled with pro-choicers can't understand why pro-lifers think the way they do. This is why so many from both camps simply scream at one-another; they don't see the opposition as rational. If you can't understand why your opponent's arguments seem intellectually and emotionally appealing to him or her, you are unlikely to win many debates. A debater's job is to crawl into the heads of their opponents and figure out what makes them tick. This approach will help you win over judges who think like your opponents. If I might preach for a moment, the process of thinking like your opponent is also a very humanizing experience. For all the war-like metaphors used in debate (such as beating your opponent, attacking their positions etc.), the activity should make us more empathetic and tolerant of ideas different from our own. To me, this is debate's greatest reward. Once you are thinking and feeling like your opponent, brainstorm all the possible arguments against your own. If you can't predict what your opponent is likely to say against you, then you aren't ready to debate. If you suspect your judge thinks like your opponent try to choose argumentative positions that require slight changes in belief rather than radical changes in world-view. 10. Learn from Your Losses First the bad news. You will lose. Let me repeat that. You will lose. If you don't lose, then you haven't debated for very long or at a very competitive level. Now the good news: debate is a skill that can be improved. One of the greatest joys of competitive debate is the winning and the losing. Notice that I didn't say the winning. It is the losses that help you appreciate the wins and it is the losses that are the best learning experiences (plus, those debates should still have been fun). If you view every loss as a humiliation to be forgotten or as a bad decision by a crazy judge, you will not improve and you will not improve your win-loss record. I'm not saying judges don't make kooky decisions, but the best debaters know how to guard against a lot of a judge's kookiness. Cherish your losses as well as your wins! Have fun and good luck! |
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