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Thodakottu
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Username: Thodakottu
Post Number: 4222
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 19, 2004 - 2:14 pm: |    |
MAngal dappu kottevallu inka kottataniki
www.mangaldappu.com
taj mahal ki rALLettina kUlilaki mA haranna ki pedda tEDA lEdu
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Dasarabullodu
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Username: Dasarabullodu
Post Number: 650
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 141.158.216.13
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 19, 2004 - 1:47 pm: | |
appreciate chese vaallu inka appreciate cheyyataaniki.
yedche vaallu inka yedavataaniki .... take a look at these..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR_Rahman
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/A.R.%20R ahman
http://members.tripod.com/gopalhome/arrbio.html
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Jai
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Username: Jai
Post Number: 305
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 65.0.58.18
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 - 12:45 pm: | |
 Thanks for telling... cheppakapOtE anta chakkani theme music ni inta chettagaa chEsaaDani telisEdi kooDaa kaadEmO naaku!
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Dasarabullodu
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Username: Dasarabullodu
Post Number: 587
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 141.158.218.106
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 - 9:32 am: | |
bailey , a dude from london remixes ARR's Bombay theme
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Jai
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Username: Jai
Post Number: 302
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 66.157.185.239
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 - 12:08 am: | |
quote:suddenly whole world seems to be going wrong isn't it?
No, actually, only one way seems to be right, antE! Nothing to worry, situation normal...
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Dasarabullodu
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Username: Dasarabullodu
Post Number: 583
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 130.203.65.32
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 - 12:03 am: | |
ARR's Bio...
Short one:http://freehost18.websamba.com/rahmania_tufs/Bio.a sp
Complete bio:http://freehost18.websamba.com/rahmania_tufs/Bio_F ull1.asp
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Dasarabullodu
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Username: Dasarabullodu
Post Number: 582
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 218.145.25.80
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 - 12:00 am: | |
suddenly whole world seems to be going wrong isn't it? 
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Jai
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Username: Jai
Post Number: 301
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 11:23 pm: | |
quote:vaallantha carnatic musicians kaakundaane raagas gurinchi discuss chethunnarantaara?
With due respects to all those people in the discussion there, (I don't even know who's involved and thus would not even think of commenting them!) raaga j~naanam and Carnatic musician avaTam annavi vEru vEru vishayaalu. In my family, no one learnt music formally except my mom, but my dad, my bro, and I can identify raaga-s and discuss them too. My bro is the best of all three, and my dad comes next. raaga j~naanam annadi theoretical knowledge of music ki sambandhinchinadi... you need not be formally trained in music to identify raaga-s. OTOH, not many people who learnt music formally can identify raaga-s well, from cine music particularly.
Sir, an opinion would be considered unbiased only if it's from a person not connected to the person on whom he's opining. meeru Ekamgaa aayana daggara play chEsina vyakti opinion share chEstE nEnEm cheptaanu?! (I am not belittling Pt. Bhatt!) And, sabhallO, samaavESaallO, interview lalO icchE opinions ki positive bias unDE chance ekkuva. kaadanTaaraa?!
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Dasarabullodu
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Username: Dasarabullodu
Post Number: 581
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 11:13 pm: | |
I don't know if there're Carnatic gurus out there who consider the great blend (no pun or sarcasm here!) as an appreciable experiment in Carnatic music. I'd bow to them if there're any! (Remember the famous dialogue from rudraveeNa? "hamsadhwani" ni "himsadhwani" chEsaavu! That's the attitude of most learned Carnatic performers!)
vaallantha carnatic musicians kaakundaane raagas gurinchi discuss chethunnarantaara?
that is just one of the many such dissections on raagas used by ARR.
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Dasarabullodu
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Username: Dasarabullodu
Post Number: 580
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 218.145.25.80
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 11:09 pm: | |
here is comments from Pandit.Vishwa Mohan Bhatt about ARR
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ message/37263
Dear friends,
Recently, Planet M Mumbai had organised an event to release Pt.Vishwa Mohan Bhatt's latest classical album, the exponent of the Mohan Veena.
Fortunately, I was present there & to top it all, very few people had attented it. So it was a face-to-face conversation. After the release function, we were given a chnce to ask questions to the Maestro. Being an ARR fan, I asked him about his film collaborations with ARR. He was in all praise for the man. he was even surprised when I told him that he'd played for films like "Iruvar", "Lagaan", "Alaipayuthey", etc. He cud only remember Lagaan at that time. So he told me that ARR is the only composer in film industry whom he respects. He's got immense knowledge about Indian classical music & knows when to use it commercially. He also added that he's a great technician & only he can come out with unbelievable sounds. He said that he had played many pieces & Rahman had kept them in his studio. Even he doesnt when he may use them in which song. But he was very happy with what ARR is doing & also blessed him.
It was such an honour to talk to such a great personality speak about another talented musicians. And now we hear that Panditji's recorded a song for Maniratnam's next film for ARR. Cool!
Tehzeeb & Lakeer r both lined up for a November release...so audio can be out soon!!
Felt like sharing this incident..hope u guys like it...
Swaps
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Jai
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Username: Jai
Post Number: 299
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 66.157.185.239
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 11:04 pm: | |
quote:dictionary.com choodamannadi nuvvu
meeku choosE Srama lEkunDaa nEnu copy-paste chEsaanE kaanee meeru refer cheyyaalani cheppalEdE?! meeru alaa swayamgaa pareekshistaarani anukOlEdu sumanDee! naa gurinchi meeru sorry enduku feelaali lenDi! anta kannaa bhaaree vishayaalu chaalaanE unnaayi mana chuTTU!
quote:I ask you again...
I already said I rest my case. ayinaa meeru tRpti paDaru ani anipinchindi kanukanE oka additional proof icchaanu... ayinaa meeru maLLee aDugutaanu anTE nEnu dikkulu chooDaTam tappinchi Emee cheyyanu, cheyyalEnu kanuka!
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Jai
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Username: Jai
Post Number: 298
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 11:00 pm: | |
quote:Lot of classical music guys actually discuss the intricate details of what raagas a particular ARR song is composed of. they treat it as a learning experience for them!
Every song has a raaga, if raaga is only a set of notes in a sequence. Mozart's compositions may turn out to be in mOhana predominantly! Is it a good idea to do that?!
Quoting from the same message you linked: "Its more of Abheri (Bhimpalasi), ARR's fav raaga. Though, its got a blend of other ragas too in some parts." ARR used abhEri for a few songs, including the much celebrated "kannulatO choosEdi guruvaa..." (That could be probably be the Tamil song quoted below this message, I don't know.) Even this one is nearer to "bheempalaas", a Hindustani raaga similar to "abhEri" in Carnatic music. But, the point lies in "blend of other ragas too in some parts" - that's called raaga-maalika if used according to some norms, but otherwise treated as "raaga-sankaram". I don't know if there're Carnatic gurus out there who consider the great blend (no pun or sarcasm here!) as an appreciable experiment in Carnatic music. I'd bow to them if there're any! (Remember the famous dialogue from rudraveeNa? "hamsadhwani" ni "himsadhwani" chEsaavu! That's the attitude of most learned Carnatic performers!)
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Dasarabullodu
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Username: Dasarabullodu
Post Number: 579
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 218.145.25.80
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 10:59 pm: | |
jai mama.. im so sorry for you seriously.
dictionary.com choodamannadi nuvvu ... malli english meeda discussion ayipothunde ani feel avuthunnavu. hmm...
I ask you again...
do you think "alaipayuthe" song was a parody?
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Jai
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Username: Jai
Post Number: 297
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 10:50 pm: | |
quote:I ask you again...
This is called selective filtering... rather, band-stop filtering. I say "I did not create Dictionary.com!" and rest my case. However, I present this piece as an additional exhibit: "in music, originally the creative reworking of several voice parts of a preexistent composition to form a new composition" (This is not my concoction, BTW, this is from Encyclopaedia Britannica, which was only not created by me.)
And, if all you want is a debate of English language and its grammar and vocabulary (Yes, I made a mistake in writing "picturized ON ARR" earlier! That was an oversight!), I am fine with it, but why call this thread ARR's Exclusive then?! Shall we call it "ARR and English grammar exclusive"?
All comments are opinions (see 2.a. for "comment" in Dictionary.Com or 3.a in Merriam-Websters.Com), but not all opinions are comments, I repeat, and rest my case, your honor! "Opinion", even in Merriam-Websters, does not have "comment" among its synonyms.
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Dasarabullodu
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Username: Dasarabullodu
Post Number: 578
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 10:50 pm: | |
btw, let me clarify again... why ARR is the one carrying the indian classical music to places...
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ message/42426
Lot of classical music guys actually discuss the intricate details of what raagas a particular ARR song is composed of. they treat it as a learning experience for them!
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Dasarabullodu
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Username: Dasarabullodu
Post Number: 577
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 10:36 pm: | |
I clarified that it's not a comment, but was only a opinion. And, now, what is this, then?
probably you should look up your dictionary once again for "opine". |
Dasarabullodu
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Username: Dasarabullodu
Post Number: 576
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 10:34 pm: | |
http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary& va=parody
Main Entry: 1par·o·dy
Pronunciation: 'par-&-dE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -dies
Etymology: Latin parodia, from Greek parOidia, from para- + aidein to sing -- more at ODE
1 : a literary or musical work in which the style of an author or work is closely imitated for comic effect or in ridicule
2 : a feeble or ridiculous imitation
I ask you again...
do you think "alaipayuthe" song was a parody? |
Jai
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Username: Jai
Post Number: 295
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 66.157.185.239
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 10:30 pm: | |
quote:u said he was kicked out from his group. that was your baseless claim.
Sree Susarla or ARR can only confirm this claim (since I cannot bring any co-audience from TGS that day). Unfortunate for me, Sree Susarla is no more, and so I told only ARR can clarify "my" "baseless" "claim".
quote:I opine that u are freaky mannerless debater.
Thanks! Now, sir, is this "spewing venom" or "freedom of expression"? I ask this just for the record. And, also for the record, when you felt hurt with my alleged "comment", I clarified that it's not a comment, but was only a opinion. And, now, what is this, then?
quote:do you think "alaipayuthe" song was a parody? did you see the picturisation of the song??
Dictionary.Com lists this among the meanings for the word parody: "Music. The practice of reworking an already established composition..." I don't think a parody has got anything to do with picturization.
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Quick_reminder
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Post Number: 521
Registered: 06-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 10:24 pm: | |
I didnt follow the whole thred but
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do you think "alaipayuthe" song was a parody? did you see the picturisation of the song??
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I think we will USE
PARODY is for music,
and {Picturization} is for Choreography
CHIRU_ _NBK |
Dasarabullodu
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Username: Dasarabullodu
Post Number: 575
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 10:21 pm: | |
This is heights of fanaticism, I dare to say!
Not all opinions are comments. Please note.
I opine that u are freaky mannerless debater.
they surely did here its lyrical {parody "kastUri bhangu bhangu!" Now what?
do you think "alaipayuthe" song was a parody? did you see the picturisation of the song??
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Dasarabullodu
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Username: Dasarabullodu
Post Number: 574
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 10:15 pm: | |
If you want proof about Sree Susarla's tutoring, ask ARR himself
I know very well that he learned carnatic music from dakshinamurthy. don't digress.
u said he was kicked out from his group. that was your baseless claim.
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Jai
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Username: Jai
Post Number: 293
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 10:08 pm: | |
quote:how many people do you think listen to the original "alaipayuthe" song
Though I had a chance, I didn't! Now, so what?! People didn't even listen "kastUri ranga rangaa! chinnaari (?) kaavETi ranga rangaa!" song... but they surely did here its lyrical parody "kastUri bhangu bhangu!" Now what?
quote:I think you should stick to the argument... instead of making such comments.
Not all opinions are comments. Please note.
quote:I would appreciate if you can support your statements with reliable sources if you really want us to believe what you say...
Believing, and the next steps whatever they may be, go by your wish; I don't enforce anything. That said, all I have is a statement by "Late" Sree Susarla himself in front of hundreds of audience in TGS, Hyderabad a few years ago. You may have read in eenaaDu article (which started this all) that people like Susarla commented on his music. If you want proof about Sree Susarla's tutoring, ask ARR himself (I believe this humblemost being tells the truth), and for Sree Thyagaraja's disciple lineage that I quoted, I read it in an article on Sree Susarla. I am not sure if I remember it right, but I think I read it in "mee ghanTasaala", a couvenir on Ghantasala. (I just wonder what an article on Sree Susarla doing in a book on Ghantasala!)
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Peacebrain
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Post Number: 241
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 9:54 pm: | |
Nee yenakamma neeku ARR pichi vunte vundidi gaani pakkana migita Indian music em chesindi neeku 
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Dasarabullodu
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Post Number: 573
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 9:52 pm: | |
This is heights of fanaticism, I dare to say!
with due respect, I think you should stick to the argument... instead of making such comments.
I will get some links ready for you... anyway.
and I would appreciate if you can support your statements with reliable sources if you really want us to believe what you say...
I said AR Rahman brought a wider audience to that classical number "alaipayuthe". apart from the people who are actually involved with carnatic music... how many people do you think listen to the original "alaipayuthe" song??? |
Jai
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Username: Jai
Post Number: 288
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 9:38 pm: | |
quote:fortunately all the classical music legends who actually dont like film music regard ARR has done a great job with his compositions....
Do you know a startling piece of info? ARR was one of the disciples of Sree Susarla Dakshinamurthy (music director of yesteryears, for movies like santaanam, nartanaSaala, etc.), who was the third generation disciple of Sree Thyagaraja! Incidentally, Sree Balamuralikrishna's dad was also a disciple of Sree Dakshinamurthy, and BMK started learning carnatic music from his dad, which makes him a fifth generation disciple of Thyagaraja. Thus, ARR can be supposed to be a fourth-generation disciple of Thyagaraja. ...IF Susarla Dakshinamurthy had not kicked ARR out for not caring to learn carnatic music in the prescribed format. You'd call it independence, expression of freedom, or whatever, but unfortunately, most carnatic musicians don't feel that way! His great classical base does help him tune a lot better than his peers, I agree, of course, after I said I like his classical compositions.
quote:ARR is the saving grace for indian classical music which has very limited audience otherwise.
This is heights of fanaticism, I dare to say! Would you want to hear brOchEvaarevaruraa a la SankaraabharaNam style?! Or do you know someone who gets married with the "maangalyam tantunaanEnaam" as tuned in sakhi?! Or do you think BMK should start trying for offers in ARR's music?!
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Dasarabullodu
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Post Number: 572
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 9:38 pm: | |
ARR uses hundreds of instruments... western beats is just one.
He earned a degree in Western Classical Music.
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Sollu
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Username: Sollu
Post Number: 2081
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 9:36 pm: | |
DB babai.....tunes correcte...kani western music ante siraku naaku enduko telusa padetodu emi paduthunnado inapadi savadu dappula gola lo....i hate ARRs music for the same reason...and i also mentioned earlier that i liked some of his' where drum didnt override the songs like palike gorinka and so..... |
Jai
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Post Number: 287
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 9:31 pm: | |
quote:World famous cos its the same drum beat
Partially true! Em chEstaam!
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Post Number: 571
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 9:31 pm: | |
I think we should ban musicians who copy western style and make world forget the indian style of music
sollu mama... fortunately all the classical music legends (hindustani, carnatic, or even qawwali ustads) who actually dont like film music regard ARR has done a great job with his compositions.... because he sticks to the INDIAN CLASSICAL RAAGAS in his songs! I can give you links for such comments.
would you have heard the "alaipayuthe" classical song if it were not remixed by ARR?? ARR is the saving grace for indian classical music which has very limited audience otherwise. |
Sollu
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I think we should ban musicians who copy western style and make world forget the indian style of music
World famous cos its the same drum beat rather than the song which dominates the song like the western music |
Dasarabullodu
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Post Number: 567
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 9:09 pm: | |
DB Babai: Nee ARR fan coverage ki, mana Lion TK maava kaani, Balayya and Jr lani cover chese OT & Dinu kaani, Chiru and PK ni cover chese Jeevi kuda neeku saati raaru
thanks mama.. nannu poorthiga ethesaavu. |
Dasarabullodu
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Post Number: 566
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 9:08 pm: | |
why don't we also think about some "freedom of expression" that you termed "spewing venom" elsewhere?
agreed... after all Osama is a devil to some and God to some others.
same way those deliberate venomic remarks were like "spewing venom" to me and "freedom of expression" to you.
but, did I condemn their use/misuse of freedom of expr?? I said I ignored.... the thread is still there.. you can check it out. I never replied to such posts. anyway.. this is going nowhere.
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Peacebrain
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Post Number: 239
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 8:57 pm: | |
DB Babai: Nee ARR fan coverage ki, mana Lion TK maava kaani, Balayya and Jr lani cover chese OT & Dinu kaani, Chiru and PK ni cover chese Jeevi kuda neeku saati raaru. 
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Jai
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Username: Jai
Post Number: 284
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 138.47.56.190
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 8:55 pm: | |
quote:I regard it as an expression of freedom.
lOkO bhinna ruchi! kaadanagalanaa? But at the same time, why don't we also think about some "freedom of expression" that you termed "spewing venom" elsewhere?
quote:I just wanted to let you know of something you possibly did not know
I have been seeing this link since you posted about ARR yesterday or so. Thanks anyway, but no, thanks!
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Dasarabullodu
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Post Number: 564
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 8:52 pm: | |
I didn't like the way he shouts "vandE maataram" while walking like a tramp with an unbuttoned shirt ...juTTu peekkunTU paaDukOvaalsina maaTa kaadadi!
I regard it as an expression of freedom.
and btw, I am a member of that fan group not to hear constant praises... but to get updates on him and soome RARE tunes. I have most of his background scores also. his interview videos, simi-garewal rendezvous... and some experiences of people close to him.
actually you find some criticism on his music too in the group. unlike here... they dont remove your message if you post anti-ARR or something like that. they honor everyones opinion. anyways.. im not forcing you to join,,, I just wanted to let you know of something you possibly did not know(such a group). there ends my job as ARR fan.
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Peacebrain
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Post Number: 237
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 8:48 pm: | |
Evito janaalu.. 
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Jai
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Post Number: 280
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quote:the video was picturised ON rahman by bharath bala
Yeah, I was not very careful with my grammar at that time, thanks for correcting me!
quote:I dont know your reason for disliking the picturisation
Well, what you guessed (the common reason you quoted) is wrong in my case. I didn't like the way he shouts "vandE maataram" while walking like a tramp with an unbuttoned shirt ...juTTu peekkunTU paaDukOvaalsina maaTa kaadadi!
quote:your experience is great may be you can share it with other ARR fans over here
Well, I don't intend to be a member of a fans group and keep hearing praises about someone constantly. This might be a wrong opinion - there could be people who give out their genuine critique about his music, but I am content with what I like of his music - Indian classical and Indian classical blended with Western style. I am not a fan of Western music much, esp. if the phrase means an increase in my heartbeat. (which, unfortunately, ARR too does at times!)
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thats awesome jai mama... nice experience.
one small correction.. "the video was picturised ON rahman by bharath bala"
bharath bala is actually childhood friend of ARR (then Dileep). personally I liked the picturisation... the colors, the people, the flag. I dont know your reason for disliking the picturisation but some might not like the fact that "it was picturised only on poor people living in huts and the desert of rajasthan etc... which does not tell how much progress India has made in technological front etc." But,u know what.. 70% of Indian population is in rural areas. especially the smiles on their faces is captured very well.
by the way... bharath bala is making an IMAX movie. http://www.tajmahalfilm.com/
and music by none other than ARR. its a hollywood scale production.
and in between he made another film which he took to cannes this year
http://www.rediff.com/movies/2004/mar/04look2.htm
which is also supposed to have done by ARR but later took over by "nitin sawhney" due to ARR's time constraints.
your experience is great may be you can share it with other ARR fans over here --> http://yahoogroups.com/group/arrahmanfans
infact more than US, ARR is almost a household name in London. He has a wider audience over there... due to ALW's Bombay Dreams ofcourse.
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On Jan. 26, 2001, I was walking in the univ. campus and singing aloud "maa tujhE salaam" at night, after a celebration of the Republic Day here. I was stopped by an American student standing in my path, and he asked me, "Excuse me! I know this song is tuned by an Indian... he's a Moslem... I don't remember his name though... but I guess he's quite famous in India, right?..."
Personally, I didn't like the way the song was picturized by ARR in his video album of the same, and eventually also didn't like this song very much earlier than this. I was just singing this song because I was coming from the program and this was the last song that remained on mind. (Of course, I'd not sing the National Anthem or the National Song just like that, walking like a tramp!) But when this guy asked me this, I was really surprised and elated, and felt personal pride in admitting he was an Indian Moslem named A.R. Rahman.
Just wanted to share,
Jai Hind!
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Khakha babai: nenu ade adugutunna andulo antharyam emiti ani... Naa first post saduvu..
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btw, chalam babai.. nee comparing endi... DB NBK ni ante emi... inko gottam gaanni ante emi, deeniki emi linku ??? Maree antha neecham gaa kanipistunnana  Naa abhipraayam cheppa
@DB Babai - Tamaru ARR Ki PS and Spokes man vaa
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ARR London ki vellipovadaniki reasons cheppaledu, Alantappudu ivanne matladukoni tittadam anavasaram,
But He is the One person for whom v Indian movie fans can be proud of...
If u r close to Barbers in Remote villages, it's ur problem...
World recognized him..
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Chalam - babai
Naa point okate... manollu praise chesinaaru ani.. London vellipovatam loni anthayram emiti? He might have done that from India itself. Also he did not treat all the producers at same pace. Manishini batti music kottadam kuda nachaledu. 
Pedda busy tech managers/bosses India lo vunna office Blore, chennai, mumbai and Hyd ki vachi vaalla projects review chesukoni veltunnaru. Veedi works kuda vastaaru kada...
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quote:the cassette had AR RAHMAN's name on it.
If I am not wrong, that was released by MagnaSound, then a big name in audio. That made the cinema page headlines for a while long back... if you were a kid at that time, I'm probably older than you are
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ARR's Bio...
short one: http://freehost18.websamba.com/rahmania_tufs/Bio.a sp
Complete bio: http://freehost18.websamba.com/rahmania_tufs/Bio_F ull1.asp
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ello DB...nuvvu nbk ni trash chesavani kadu....trasing lo limits dathuthunnavani...uvvu abhimaninche vadini kuda trash sesthe neeku entha kaluddo telusthadi ani......
endi gatha rendu rojullo mangali doppu antunte ellipothunnavu? oka limit lo sattires veyyi evadu feel kadu.....adi daatithene kaledi.....
PS: naaku ARR ante pirst nunchi sirake....evo rendu albums lo patalu nachinayi...where mangali doppu is absent in those songs...... |
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Dbul mama, I think ARR and shankar had some problems, anduke no work together. boys lo ayyappa song compose cheyyamante ARR refuse chesadata. ( malla athanni muslmi ani thittevallaki info, he was worried that ppl will brand him a hindu hater cuz he modernized some ayyappa song ), so praveen mani chesadu aa song. akkada edo ego probs vachayi.
its true that ARR didnot do ayyappa song in boys. but that simple fact gave birth to numerous stories by the media. so, I would just stop at the fact that he didnot compose that song... and not believe anything that is not confirmed.
whatever may be the reason for ARR to reject shankar's project. ARR is too busy with his other projects and shankar wants to finish his project by this year itself. and the kind of dedication ARR gives for shankar's projects is surely not possible.
there was another news recently that shankar's next project after the current one is NASA.. and ARR is supposed to be helping him with the music. but speculating now is as good as any other bollywood gossip.
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DB mama balayya ni eskuntadu ani meerandaru ARR ni eskovadamendi babu.
ide naaku artham kaadu... why should anyone's opinion depend on some other's opinion.
suppose .. if I claimed I was a fan of PK ... you would trash him just because I trashed NBK. kharma.
and just because someone trashes ARR doesnt mean my opinion on NBK would change.
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Dbul mama, I think ARR and shankar had some problems, anduke no work together. boys lo ayyappa song compose cheyyamante ARR refuse chesadata. ( malla athanni muslmi ani thittevallaki info, he was worried that ppl will brand him a hindu hater cuz he modernized some ayyappa song ), so praveen mani chesadu aa song. akkada edo ego probs vachayi.
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jai mama... even I would not be very happy if he completely leaves indian movies. But that is never going to happen trust me.
the thing is.. given that he is to busy with his schedule(in fact he divides his time for Movies, spirituality, social service and family as told by him) naturally it will be difficult for him to sign every project that comes by. if you see his current projects.. all of them are from TOP notch directors... YUVA, meenaxi, SWADES(ashutosh), NETAJI(shyam benegal), THE RISING(hollywood scale production) ..... so much so that... he had to reject SHANKAR's next project ROBOT(harris is doing it). south india has witnessed the ARR-shankar combo for 6 movies... which shows it is indeed difficult for ARR to manage... infact there was another hollywood production by bhatath bala titled HARI OM which was supposed to be done by ARR but later nitin sawhney took it over... since the director was planning to screen it in cannes festival. we also know ARR takes more time for master pieces.
all this just means that he is rejecting smaller projects for good. what is the point in composing if NAANI had three good songs and rest of them average?? and re-used tunes in lakeer.
but he is never going to leave india. thats for sure. after all he is building a studio in chennai.
and the malgudi subha's album... "set me free" was actually sold with her name on the cassette when it was released first. infact ARR was Dileep when he scored that album. and after AR Rahman shot to fame... the cassette had AR RAHMAN's name on it. ofcos.. this was all told by someone in the yahoo group. otherwise I wouldnt know at all.. being a kid at that time.
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quote:babai, 10 years inta allaladinchadu kabatte racha ninchi pilupu lochayi.
idi katti! 
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'inta gelichi racha gelavamannaru'
- idi joke of the decade.
babai, 10 years inta allaladinchadu kabatte racha ninchi pilupu lochayi. akkada kashtapadthunnadu. pulini choosi nakka vathalu pettukuni annatu, DB mama balayya ni eskuntadu ani meerandaru ARR ni eskovadamendi babu.
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quote:one was released as malgudi subha's. the same album after three years, was released as AR RAHMAN's album. why do you think they did that?
manasantaa nuvvE hit ayyaaka Jodi No.1 was released. enduku?! idee andukE, aTU iTUgaa! That's more of a business tactic than a proof for ARR's name. (Who needs a proof today about a well-established fact!?)
ataniki Indian film music meeda interest taggindO, just too choosy gaa unTunnaaDO teleedu kaanee choosy gaa unnaa inta kannaa better music ivvagalaDu.
ee madhya ARR score chEsina konni movies ki one cannot even make out that they were made by ARR! I, as a fan, would be disappointed when I come across such music, antE! That's not what he's worth!
I don't think he should keep on scoring for Indian movies, I surely would want him to grow further (than today) and reach out to the world. Just, FYI.
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mari eti anukunnavu sollu mama....
dappa majaka?
vallu oorloo kodithe oori janalu dancing
cinemalli kodithe managal dappau pans dancing
taj mahal ki rALLettina kUlilaki mA haranna ki pedda tEDA lEdu
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mangali doppu ante gurthochindi TK bhayya maa oorilo mangali saebu untadu pellillaki bajalu moginchadante aame thalli garu eerangam eyyal anthe...... |
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AR RAHMAN Music= Mangal Dappu
taj mahal ki rALLettina kUlilaki mA haranna ki pedda tEDA lEdu
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Padmavyuham was the first movie he did even before ROJA
one of his best works
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>He is a good director agreed.
thanks
>Naaku ekkuva gaa teleedu ARR gurinchi kaani...
so please continue reading...
>Kaani India nundi London denXesi akkada makaam petti pani cheyyadam lo vunna antharyam assalu artham kaaledu.
totally absurd. AR Rahman is very much attached to his home. He does all the composing at his home. (whether hindi or even the recent chinese album). For that matter, he is constructing a wordl-class state of the art recording studio in chennai. (not in london).
> Koncham weak producer/director ayithe music kuda antha effective gaa kottadu.
this is a complaint that i heard from many. but the main fact is irrespective of the language, the music he comes up with depends on how much the Director (producer has no influence. except in lagaan) inspires him. he gave flops in tamil also. and hindi also. this is a matter of creativity. it is not a mechanical process where he can decide about the quality of the music first and then compose.
take MR for example. compare YUVA, roja, bombay donga donga, dilse, iddaru... are all of the same quality? it depends on the scope a particular movie offers.
> Last and foremost thing to DB Babu: Inta gelichi Racha gelava mannaru. Talent nu addam pettukoni Edava veshaalu veyyadam ee category kindaku raadu. Adi balupu and Vaapu category kindaku vastundi
idi total ga thappu. AR Rahman is one of the humblest being on earth.
-did you ever find any controversial news against him in the 12 years of his career till now??
-did u ever hear him bad-mouthing any of his peers?
he charges more because his name itself on the casette sells like hot cakes. a small fact here... he composed 2 private albums before roja. one was released as malgudi subha's. the same album after three years, was released as AR RAHMAN's album. why do you think they did that?
if u ever come across his interviews, give two mins.. you will get an idea of the kind of person he is
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>>>>>Inta gelichi Racha gelava mannaru. Talent nu addam pettukoni Edava veshaalu veyyadam ee category kindaku raadu. Adi balupu and Vaapu category kindaku vastundi
Malla naaku National intigration tokka tolu ledu anaku, I respect other languagues and their works too as well as my mother tounge Telugu.
PB mama 
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He is a good director agreed. Naaku ekkuva gaa teleedu ARR gurinchi kaani... Kaani India nundi London denXesi akkada makaam petti pani cheyyadam lo vunna antharyam assalu artham kaaledu. Deeni valla mana vaallu payments in Euros, discussions with music director and travel expenses tadisi mopedu kaavadam tappa emi ledu.
Koncham weak producer/director ayithe music kuda antha effective gaa kottadu.
Ippati varaku okka direct Teludu movie ki manchi music kottina sandarbaalu asalu choodane ledu. Ade Tamil movies lo konnintiki manchi tunes icharu. Idi mana producers/directors chetha kaani tanama? Inkota....
Last and foremost thing to DB Babu: Inta gelichi Racha gelava mannaru. Talent nu addam pettukoni Edava veshaalu veyyadam ee category kindaku raadu. Adi balupu and Vaapu category kindaku vastundi
Malla naaku National intigration tokka tolu ledu anaku, I respect other languagues and their works too as well as my mother tounge Telugu. 
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Mana intlo vantaki paniki rani ..KURA ..entha ruchi ga vunte emi labham le mama ..
Better to open ARREMHAN Sir related threads in either Hollywood section or Music section ...
You might get better audience there ...
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Be Proud to be ARR's fan
http://yahoogroups.com/group/arrahmanfans |
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He is too busy with international projects.
- He is composing a orchestral piece "conference of birds" to be performed at CBSO, London.
- Lord of the rings musical (www.lordoftheringsmusical.com)
- an album with Karen David.
- an album with Vanessa Mae. (http://www.vanessa-mae.com/)
(notice that he is going to share credits with VANGELIS!!!! if u know who he is.. that itself is a gr8 honor)
- apart from music, he is an ambassodor for UN for humanitarian causes. (and for "save the children" at home.)
meanwhile, his first album in US released in june i guess (www.arrahman.com) Label:SONY MUSIC
You can buy his albums vandemataram/bombay dreams from walmart if you wish. (just search for AR Rahman)
Even www.launch.yahoo.com has an entry for AR Rahman.
AR RAHMAN is International Icon now
It dont matter a sh** what a dude from a remote village thinks about his music...
what is it.. barber's beat?? lol
and at home ...
Netaji (shyam benegal)
Swades (ashutosh gowrikar)
are just few weeks away from release. WATCH OUT!!
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