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Truecolours
Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Truecolours
Post Number: 9672 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 67.11.242.218
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 11:16 am: | |
>>Ekkada mee HERO antee evalu .. pls calripy clearly ??? AP mama AW Mahesh ki musugu fan anthee.....aayana actual ga evariki fan anedhi ikkada andariki thelusu... ps: ippudu nenu mahesh meedha nenu dragging related comment cheyyanu endukantee Arjun ki chusanu Athadu ki chusthunna kabatti.. |
Agniparvatham
Bewarse Username: Agniparvatham
Post Number: 2435 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 165.254.69.162
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 11:04 am: | |
>>antha mee hero nerpindee kadha..... Ekkada mee HERO antee evalu .. pls calripy clearly ??? |
Truecolours
Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Truecolours
Post Number: 9666 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 67.11.242.218
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 10:27 am: | |
TK, Nee lekka prakaram 30 lakhs Anji dhi gross anukundaamu. >>>Rent itself per week 3 lakhs vesukunna 100 days ki rentey 45 lakhs avvuthundhi. 14 lakhs negative share tho nadusthundhi antavaa bomma. 0 lakhs negative share thoo nadichina bommalu kuda unnayu inkaa 14 lakhs daaka endukulee..... same logic LNS ki enduku apply kaadhu... edupulooo roju roju ki minchipothunnavugaaa.... eduvu baaga eduvu.. antha mee hero nerpindee kadha..... ayuna maa Nandamuri vallani anali ekkadoo seekatloo kakkurthi padatharu neelanti jathi ratnalani maaku prasadistharu... |
Andhrawala
Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Andhrawala
Post Number: 8354 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 192.58.204.226
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 10:14 am: | |
Tagore - 67 Lakhs(1 Crore Gross is 141 days) SD - Around 65 Lakhs (1 Crore in 103/104 days..exact gaa gurtu ledu) TK, Nee lekka prakaram 30 lakhs Anji dhi gross anukundaamu. Rent itself per week 3 lakhs vesukunna 100 days ki rentey 45 lakhs avvuthundhi. 14 lakhs negative share tho nadusthundhi antavaa bomma. |
Andhrastar
Bewarse Username: Andhrastar
Post Number: 1446 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 210.211.231.214
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 9:54 am: | |
ckr ran 50days in two centers in hyd sudarshan - rtcxroads rajeswar - secundrabad sudarshan lo 63days or 70days anthaku minchi ledhu le |
Truecolours
Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Truecolours
Post Number: 9661 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 67.11.242.218
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 9:47 am: | |
>>ekapothe CKR maadhiri oka pipty tho lechipoyedhi CKR pipty endhi? 10 weeks aadindi hyd loo..11th week theesaru... ee season ayuthee endhi? Anji kudaa Sankranthi kee vachindi emi peekindi? 35 lakhs Gross in main theatre..adhi kuda strongest center... cinemaloo satha untee ee season ayuthee enddhi? |
Andhrawala
Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Andhrawala
Post Number: 8353 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 192.58.204.226
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 9:46 am: | |
// nee musgu mahesh ki kuda strong center kadha mari akkada Arjun kuda almost maaa LNS ki 2 lakhs ekkuva collectiong seyyatam endhi? // Arjun commercial plop and LNS Superhit. Strong center kabatti 2 lakhs margin tho crossing ayyindhi and 100 days padindhi. ALso LNS released during Sankranthi season and Arjun normal season. lekapothe CKR maadhiri oka pipty tho lechipoyedhi |
Truecolours
Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Truecolours
Post Number: 9660 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 67.11.242.218
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 9:42 am: | |
>>>Sankranthi season kabatti one week full ayyina kaani 8.4 lakh gross vasthundhi which means 30 lakhs cannot be gross it can only be share for 100 days enduku alaa ani anukuntaavu? anthaa nee istamenaaa? alaa untee jeevi clear gaa share ani raasevadu gaa LNS ki raasinattu.. aa link loo aa line loo unna anni movies ki share or gross clear gaa raasi ANJI ki enduku vadiladu? oka week share raakapothe patha collection adjust chestharani kudaa theliyadhaa? LNS around 20 days full ayundhi...SUdarshan loo... mari aa lekkana susukuntee LNS Ki 28 lakhs share anedhi kudaa boothu.... |
Andhrawala
Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Andhrawala
Post Number: 8352 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 192.58.204.226
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 9:40 am: | |
TC maaya, // balu hit antha collecting intha collecting annaru kadha... mari Hyd main theatre loo SYE collect chesinadatlooo atu itu gaa sagam (halp) collecting sesindi... // Johnny gaadi bommalki antha scenu illio. Johnny craze antha Kushi time lone. ee five years lo his craze is on the downslide. aa bommani daarunamgaa drag seseru Hyderabad lo |
Truecolours
Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Truecolours
Post Number: 9659 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 67.11.242.218
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 9:39 am: | |
>>>commercial failure bommalu kooda mee superhits tho equal gaa collect sesthaayi idhigoo malli... nenu indaka seppanu.. Anji ki Gross or share anedhi ivvaledhu..LNS ki share icharu clear gaa... ayuna Hyd siru brothers ki strong center kadha.... mari akkada pavan kalyan movie Nitin movie loo halp collecting seyyatam endhi? nee musgu mahesh ki kuda strong center kadha mari akkada Arjun kuda almost maaa LNS ki 2 lakhs ekkuva collectiong seyyatam endhi? |
Andhrastar
Bewarse Username: Andhrastar
Post Number: 1445 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 210.211.231.214
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 9:38 am: | |
\HC pan ayyina nee laantollu kooda soodakapothe average bomma plop ayyi koorchuntundhi. adhevere heroes bomalu, pans plus nee laantollu soodatam thoeven commercial failure bommalu kooda mee superhits tho equal gaa collect sesthaayi\ telusu le maya valla cinemalu ee matram colelct sestunnayyo paper numbers gurinchi evariki sebutaru last year preti website odu seppadu sye comemrcially a failure ani oka Rs.100/- iste malli stmts change rajmouli ki cont 4 hits lol asalu aa sye cinema business kooda sakka ga kaledhu , dadapu 3 crore dificts tho relase ayyindhi |
Andhrawala
Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Andhrawala
Post Number: 8351 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 192.58.204.226
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 9:37 am: | |
TK, OK Anji gross or share anedhi raayaledhu. Sudharshan 70 MM lo ippudu per showgross is Rs 29800 after the reduction of ticket prices from Rs 50 to Rs Rs 35 (balcony) Sankranthi season kabatti one week full ayyina kaani 8.4 lakh gross vasthundhi which means 30 lakhs cannot be gross it can only be share for 100 days |
Manasnaidu
Bewarse Username: Manasnaidu
Post Number: 1213 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 203.91.193.5
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 9:37 am: | |
ON mama ippudu ela vundi mama health???? edo analani antaaru kani janam..., health kanna cinema goppademi kadu.., nuvvu lite lelo.., |
Truecolours
Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Truecolours
Post Number: 9658 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 67.11.242.218
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 9:34 am: | |
AW http://www.idlebrain.com/movie/cinemahall/sudarsha n35mm.html pai link sudu... balu hit antha collecting intha collecting annaru kadha... mari Hyd main theatre loo SYE collect chesinadatlooo atu itu gaa sagam (halp) collecting sesindi... |
Andhrawala
Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Andhrawala
Post Number: 8350 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 192.58.204.226
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 9:33 am: | |
AS maaya, // endhuko manasu oppatam ledhu chudataniki nbk avg movies ki emanna recognization untada cheppandi public lo ,fans ee peddaga value ivvaru // HC pan ayyina nee laantollu kooda soodakapothe average bomma plop ayyi koorchuntundhi. adhevere heroes bomalu, pans plus nee laantollu soodatam thoeven commercial failure bommalu kooda mee superhits tho equal gaa collect sesthaayi |
Andhrastar
Bewarse Username: Andhrastar
Post Number: 1444 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 210.211.231.214
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 9:33 am: | |
aw maya okati cheppu anji collected 20crore share bunny collected 15crore share but both anji and bunny relased in similar number of centers mari ee rendu movies share lo intha teda unte how can bunny have more 50days and 100days centers than anji sdmbbs ante ekkuva centers relase ani gola chesaru |
Truecolours
Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Truecolours
Post Number: 9657 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 67.11.242.218
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 9:31 am: | |
AW okasari nuvvu ichina link sudu... Anji ki share anedhi gross anedhi raayaledhu.... LNS ki Share ni clear gaa raasaru... that makes dipperence... emi theliyakunda enduku vatharraa babu maa panalu thiyyataniki kakapothee.... |
Andhrawala
Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Andhrawala
Post Number: 8348 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 192.58.204.226
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 9:31 am: | |
Mahesh babu's recent 100 days movie Arjun had a 30 lakh share. SOurce http://www.idlebrain.com/movie/cinemahall/sandhya7 0mm.html |
Andhrastar
Bewarse Username: Andhrastar
Post Number: 1443 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 210.211.231.214
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 9:30 am: | |
ademi kadhu aw maya endhuko manasu oppatam ledhu chudataniki nbk avg movies ki emanna recognization untada cheppandi public lo ,fans ee peddaga value ivvaru chustunna ga ee db lone ,when we talk about his avg movies ,haters cry that they are flops and disasters ,while hardly few fans come forward to defend nbk entire career lo oka 20 to 30 avg aboveavg flicks untayi ,kani recognization unnadi kevalam ADITYA369 okka danike frank ga chebutunna ee AP cinema nbk kakunda ee hero chesina definet ga minimum commercialhit ayedhi or else ayye laga chese varu ,and it would have that recognization panduga sesaon ayina vere hero chesi unte board midha 12 to 15 centers undevi |
Andhrawala
Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Andhrawala
Post Number: 8347 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 192.58.204.226
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 9:28 am: | |
TK, Sudharshan 70 MM Anji collected about 35 lakhs for 100 days (source http://www.idlebrain.com/movie/cinemahall/sudarsha n70mm.html) Natasimha Nandamuri Balakrishna superhit movie Lakshmi Narasimha collected 28 lakhs share for 100 days run. (source http://www.idlebrain.com/movie/cinemahall/sudarsha n35mm.html) |
Truecolours
Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Truecolours
Post Number: 9655 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 67.11.242.218
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 9:15 am: | |
>>>Entho SUperhit anukunna LNS kooda 100 padda kaani lesser share than Sye in the same theatre. Indra kakundaa Chiranjeevi cinemala hyd main theatre share septhaavaa edupukottu AW |
Andhrawala
Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Andhrawala
Post Number: 8345 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 192.58.204.226
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 9:09 am: | |
AS maaya, //i am searching for job ,and these days my health is not good Pidugu mari eppudu choodhmani planning. Are tickets available or not. Lekapothe movie poyina karnamagaa haters comments vinnaaslsosthundhani veltamledhaaa?? What happened |
Andhrastar
Bewarse Username: Andhrastar
Post Number: 1442 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 210.211.231.214
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 8:59 am: | |
who said i am now busy with gre/toefl i am searching for job ,and these days my health is not good gre score takkuva vachhindhi ,so i kept a temporary break for that i will keep a fresh date for it either in jan or feb |
Lodhisingh
Pilla Bewarse Username: Lodhisingh
Post Number: 163 Registered: 09-2005 Posted From: 58.104.16.161
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 8:59 am: | |
>>>any way naku aite AP nilabadutundhi anna hopes aite total ga poyayi ,AP nilabadali ante edanna adbutame jaragali ,ika mi istam edhava sodhi aapi, asalu mundu nuvvu cinema enduku choodaleo cheppu |
Hemanth
Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Hemanth
Post Number: 9014 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 57.68.10.185
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 8:59 am: | |
nee pani tharuvatha septha annadu ga, aagu septhadu. |
Andhrawala
Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Andhrawala
Post Number: 8344 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 192.58.204.226
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 8:56 am: | |
AS maaya, Inthaki AP enni saarlu soosevu. Know that u are busy in preparations for GR/TOEFL but DB lo active particpation ante enough time vundocchu kabatti adugunthunna. How many times u saw |
Andhrastar
Bewarse Username: Andhrastar
Post Number: 1441 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 210.211.231.214
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 8:55 am: | |
mama abhimanam leka pote pbn,vv flop ani telsina endhuku sunday roju velli chuse vadini mire cheppali |
Andhrastar
Bewarse Username: Andhrastar
Post Number: 1440 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 210.211.231.214
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 8:51 am: | |
abbo leg pulling gallu tega nithulu sebutunnaru ga mi sangati taruvata sebuta le kani venu mama entha number of relases ekkuva unte matram miru annattu avg ga unna movie ki ,ragavendra malkajgiri lanti 50 to 70 days ade center ni ettestara one week ke ,that too with a tamil dubbing movie G ,ajit ki emi antha popularty undhi andhra lo seppu nuve fact is that in hyd now CHATRAPATI GOING IN FULL swing ma inti daggara hall lo second week kooda housefull all shows all days imagin chatrapti ni repati nunchi gokul lo teesina malli daggrlone unna satyam lo istunnaru ante how well its going MAY BE AP IS AVG FLICK AS U PPL ARE SAYING ,but to our bad luck and nbk bad luck it is turning out to be a disaster ,first day talk chala bad effect ichhi untadi AP ki bahusa VV appudu kooda next week MASS release ayyindhi ,appudu kooda vv fell down to less than 10halls i think ee week relase avutunna bageeratha,premiste,G evi mass antha heavy relase leve even combined ga chusina bageeratha,premiste kalpite mass relase centers ki equal avutayi ,and 3 or 4 odd centers to G any way naku aite AP nilabadutundhi anna hopes aite total ga poyayi ,AP nilabadali ante edanna adbutame jaragali ,ika mi istam |
Venu
Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Venu
Post Number: 6314 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 67.84.172.208
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 8:31 am: | |
Andhrastar aka Onlynbk Ante yenti ye hero movie ayina 2nd week ki 12 to 15 theatres lo anna undala?? Oka vela pandaga season ani number of releases yekkuva unna number of theatres anthe undala? Adi kuda Balayya weak ayinatuvanti place HYD lo, adi kuda cinema weak ayyindi anna tarvatha kuda 12 to 15 lo undalsinde naa?? Mundu Abhimanam unte poyi cinema chusi ochhi mattadu leda gommuna kurcho anthe kani cinema chusindi ledu yem ledu cinema gurinchi -ve cheppatam yekkuvaindi! |
Proofdada
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Post Number: 30582 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 80.121.144.9
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 7:03 am: | |
dengxakane dengxatam....kikiki....aw mayyya.. |
Andhrawala
Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Andhrawala
Post Number: 8343 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 192.58.204.226
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 7:02 am: | |
AS maaya, Endhuku pundu meedha karam salluthaavu. Sudharshan 70 MM lo release avuuthunnadhi Hit Super hit anukuni pattumani 3 weeks kaaledhu. Ippudu confirmed disaster anna thread avasaramaaa?? Chiru emergence tho Balayya Nizam lo weak ayyipoyedu ani thelusu kathaaa. Ika PK and Mahesh la raaka tho maree down ayyedu. Added to that jr NTR and now NKR. Okappudu Outside Hyderabad 100 lekunna, Hyd lo 100-150 padevi Balayya bommalu. adhantha gatham. Ippudu Ceded lo Pedannayya veeraviharam. Hyderabad lo 3-4 weeks run. Entho SUperhit anukunna LNS kooda 100 padda kaani lesser share than Sye in the same theatre. Do we need all these things now... Mods please delethe this thread |
Hemanth
Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Hemanth
Post Number: 9006 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 24.136.160.182
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 5:39 am: | |
ON mama, nuvvu vesina same post ni vere vadu vesthee, edusthunnadu, sunakanandam anevadivi, malla nuvvu vachi disater ani vesav. deniki ila??? |
Hemanth
Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Hemanth
Post Number: 9005 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 24.136.160.182
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 5:38 am: | |
ON mama, fan annavadu, entha flop ayina sare cinema chosthadu mama, abhimana hero ni chodataniki. naaku nijam ga nuvvu ardam kavatam ledu mama, deniki cinema chodaledu anedi?? |
Godfather
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Post Number: 28321 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 217.157.60.18
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 4:47 am: | |
penku mama.. |
Penkonda_tiger
Kurra Bewarse Username: Penkonda_tiger
Post Number: 685 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 213.222.9.2
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 3:43 am: | |
GF mamma ......... |
Godfather
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Post Number: 28305 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 217.157.60.18
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 2:53 am: | |
emi frankness oo endo.. flop aite mataladaka kurchovali kani inthesi pedda postlu avasarama ? nenu chudu maa james flop aite dani mida taruvata oka post kuda veyaledu.. inka chatrapati kuda edo avg. gaa potundi ani dani kuda vodilisanu.. |
Pidel
Vooriki Bewarse Username: Pidel
Post Number: 3016 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 211.28.246.176
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 1:40 am: | |
ON mama, don't get disheartned mama. movie's flop or hit anedi sarvasadaranam. NBK next cinema hit avalani korukundam. i appreciate ur frankness. |
Iron
Pilla Bewarse Username: Iron
Post Number: 5 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 202.149.60.134
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 1:28 am: | |
US lo paristhithi... 1). Friday Shows 7PM show 26(including free) 10PM Show 126(including free) 2). Saturday Shows 1PM show 0(zero) 4Pm show 28 7PM show 46 10PM show 21 3). Sunday shows 2.30PM show 12 5.30PM show 20 8.30PM show 17 Total count 306, free tickets 12. so net people paid for show is 294 total collection 294*10=2940 Theatre rent 3000 USD on flat basis. |
Iron
Pilla Bewarse Username: Iron
Post Number: 4 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 202.149.60.134
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 1:22 am: | |
andhra antha big diaster mama.... US lo Dstributors pettina pettubadi raabattukovadaniki coverings chesthunnaru... trim chesthunnaru... n also US lo NBK fans free ga tickets isthunnaru hype create cheyyadaniki... |
Bezawadabbai
Pilla Bewarse Username: Bezawadabbai
Post Number: 193 Registered: 09-2005 Posted From: 130.220.79.99
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 1:08 am: | |
ON mama intakki cinema chusavva ledha |
Andhrastar
Bewarse Username: Andhrastar
Post Number: 1439 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 61.17.250.32
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 12:40 am: | |
ee peddareddy gadu evadu flop cinemala tho shunakanandam teerchukuntadu |
Peddareddy
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Post Number: 130 Registered: 09-2004 Posted From: 24.251.16.226
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 12:35 am: | |
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Andhrastar
Bewarse Username: Andhrastar
Post Number: 1438 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 61.17.250.32
| Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 12:02 am: | |
single vesara mamalu dont forget vv having 9 or 10 halls for second week ,even with mass relasing in the immediate next week |
Andhrastar
Bewarse Username: Andhrastar
Post Number: 1437 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 61.17.250.32
| Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 11:51 pm: | |
emi weak area mama avg talk unte ee hero movie aina second week ki atleast 12 centers untunnayi hyd lo ,even if jr movie got avg talk it would have got 12centers for second week ,narasimhudu,nalludu utterflop talk ganuka less than 10 vachhayi second week ki so we can conform AP a disaster in hyd |
Truecolours
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Post Number: 9653 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 67.11.242.218
| Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 11:43 pm: | |
2nd week hyd loo 8 conpirmed theatres adhee weak area hyd loo antee disaster aaa inthakee thamaru cinema susaraa ledhaaa? |
Andhrastar
Bewarse Username: Andhrastar
Post Number: 1435 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 61.17.250.32
| Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 11:29 pm: | |
babulu ee cinema pai ika avg -aboveavg asahalu vadilesukovatam better cinema is heading towards a big disaster at hyd ,i dont think the movie fate is some what different from hyd in rest of the areas also second week ki hyd lo allaripidugu ki migultunna halls just 8 sudarshan-70 - rtcxroads venkatadri - dilsuknagar arjun-kukatpalli prashant-secundrabad geeth-r.c.puram sharada-kapra srikrishna - uppal indra-karmanghat prasadz,sairaja,ramakrishna ee 3halls conformed ga telyadhu kani 95% surely they will also be removed sairaja,ramakrishna lo evo hindi cinemalu vasatyi emo prasadz lo next week ki undatam highly impossible ,as both premiste and bageeratha conformed release in prasadz while chatrapti doing well in prasadz RAGAVENDRA-70 - MALAKJGIRI lo 1week avvagani G ane cinema tho replace chestunnaru ante ,understand how big disaster AP is |