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Amar
Kurra Bewarse
Username: Amar
Post Number: 183
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 24.13.70.185
| | Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 10:43 pm: |    |
I donno why but pacino seems agressive to me. with his loud voice he tends to dominate vocally, de niro appears subtle to me.
i mean suppose if i am acting in companion with pacion, i would be intimidated by his performance but deniro i am guessing i wouldnt be intimidated.
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Chalam
Vooriki Bewarse
Username: Chalam
Post Number: 1460
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 148.87.1.171
| | Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 3:29 pm: | |
mama, phila.. is a once in a lifetime perf mama. you gotta study the character and he takes us through the journey wonderfully. dont think spontaneous acting would have done justice to the role at all. I would assume the same for devdas of ANR. nuvvannattu the 'kind' of roles and the movies makes the difference anukunta. But I dont think depp or russell crowe are as much into this method acting as deniro or pacino.
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Hustler
Kurra Bewarse
Username: Hustler
Post Number: 311
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 138.87.159.124
| | Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 2:57 pm: | |
I think the kind of movies they make here marks the distinction. Johnny depp is another good actor but i think he tends to be repetitive in his mannerisms. I got this feeling when i saw his two movies, pirates of the carribbean and Once upon a time in mexico. But i have to say he is lot different from the regular pack.
Tom hanks is another actor i love to watch. He took the movie saving the private ryan to another dimension. i thought he was pretty good in Saving than philadelphia(another thoroughly studied character performance) 'coz in saving the private ryan tom hanks acting was amazing in couple of scenes( the scene where he cries after burying his troop member). I thought it was spontaneous becoz it is contrasting to the mood he wxhibhits in the entire movie. |
Chalam
Vooriki Bewarse
Username: Chalam
Post Number: 1459
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 148.87.1.171
| | Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 2:42 pm: | |
LOL, hustler - well said. I was actually about to comment on the downside of method acting and how rajendra prasad breaks the myth about the whole thing. yes, SVR is another perfect example.
but hollywood lo they have to do it mama, the consistency they maintain throughout the movie is simply not there in our movies. mana deggara scene to scene perf. valla deggara a holistic performance.
what do you think of johnny depp ?
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Hustler
Kurra Bewarse
Username: Hustler
Post Number: 310
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 138.87.159.124
| | Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 2:34 pm: | |
Chalam bhai
Frankly i never saw any kind of spontaneity in hollywood actors. Last night i was seeing "Inside the actors studio" hosted by James lipton On bravo tv and after the show my opinion was further strengthened that in hollywood spontaneity is a rarity. Most of the actors even the greats of hollywood study the characters they gonna play.
Talking about spontaneity , Our great S.V.ranga rao is one hell of spotaneous actor. I get that kick watching him in mayabazar , bakta prahlada and gundamma katha when watch them even today where as if i watch taxi driver or godfather i dont get that kick from alpacino or deniro 's acting. |
Chalam
Vooriki Bewarse
Username: Chalam
Post Number: 1458
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 148.87.1.171
| | Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 1:59 pm: | |
Nothing like getting in the middle. guess I sounded wrong, this is open to ALL.  . sorry about that.
Hustler - well, Pacino gets over the top in certain characters surely, you can also see him sleep-walking through certain dumb roles, clear cases of disinterest. I would give it to deniro that whatever he chooses, he tries to fit in. but the difference for me is that Deniro's 'effort' is visible in his performances while pacino looks a complete natural to me. deniro's moments of silence, his askance looks - everything looks like it was put in there after some heavy thought and that's very off-putting for someone like me that relishes spontaneous performances more than this heavy method acting rituals.
people say pacino is also a big time method actor but that does not come across on the screen too much.
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Hustler
Kurra Bewarse
Username: Hustler
Post Number: 307
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 138.87.154.97
| | Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 1:40 pm: | |
I guess I got in the middle of some duel..but anyways..
Chalam bhai ..Agreed pacino is a great actor but sometimes i think He is like our own prakash raj , mean to say that he tends to over act than what is required for the role.If you have seen the film "the recruit" then i guess u will understand wat am saying.
Deniro on the other hand sets himself to the role and gets totally into the character. For example take Raging bull.. you will see a jake la motta not Robert deniro in the film.
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Chalam
Vooriki Bewarse
Username: Chalam
Post Number: 1447
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 148.87.1.171
| | Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 12:47 am: | |
ok, hoping pulp will come out of his 'bush' now.  been bewarsing my time in the other sections but doesnt seem to work for me.
babai, method acting though yields good results for the overall movie ( and looks fantastic for the first-time viewer), dont you think for someone that follows movies over a finite period of time, gets into the law of diminishing returns phase ?
taking your case in point of HEAT and deniro, Al Pacino's style was not liked by you and NYTIMES as is obvious. but care to think of why pacino prolly took a contrasting posture to deniro's brooding bore ?  you have two protagonists, and pacino here is on the verge of a failed marriage and a smart thief ( signs of frustration ) - he is forever 'reacting' to what deniro does in the movie, he is a leader for his team, he gotta provide the movie with an obvious contrast ( because mr. niro would not deviate from his brooding posture anyways ) and IMHO, pacino's style suits the role to the T as a result of all the above factors.
if one were to see whether or not pacino can underplay, watch INSOMNIA. cant imagine de niro doing a role like that.
over to you.  |
