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Sarangadhara
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Username: Sarangadhara
Post Number: 77
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anywaz folks , that is an issue for later discussion comparison of the religions and cultures.
RULES ARE MEANT TO BE FOLLOWED IN SPIRIT , IF FEEBLE HUMAN MINDS DISTORT THEM ACCORDING TO THE RAVAGES OF TIME , THE BLAME LIES ON SOCIETY NOT ON THE SAGES OR WISEMEN WHO PUT THE RULES .
this is my last post for today guys , catch this thread tomorrow }
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Sarangadhara
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Username: Sarangadhara
Post Number: 76
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Razmataz garu meeru edo tappu rule di antunnaru , when the rule itself was not that way
so if i can show the verses in koran which are highly inflamatorry will you agree there is a deep venom down there in those religions.
hindu matam lo okka verse meeru alantidi choopinchaleru .
himalayas manaki barrier kadu , ancient india extended till the iran of present , it was an vast area , kavalante HINDU KUSH PARVATALAKI AA PERU ELA VACCHINDO MEERU PARISEELISTE TELUSTUNDI .}
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Sarangadhara
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Username: Sarangadhara
Post Number: 75
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 23, 2004 - 9:01 pm: | |
Razmataz garu dunno if i have seen your id in IBDB
1.rules patavi ayina chala scientific proof vundi and based on nice principles for the upliftment of society ayite ippudu kuda we can follow like the original caste system.
2.about the abrahmic religions no comments , you can compare the trail of destruction they have left behind , bringing forth the dark ages in their wake , islamic invasions daniki proof , some other time will open a thread on that.
3.AT THE HEIGHT OF THE ARYAVARTA CIVILIZATION(ANCIENT INDIA COMPRISING OF AFGHANISTAM , PARTS OF MIDDLE EAST TO EDGE OF CAMBODIA(KAMARUPA ANCIENT NAME)
we had tremendous power , but we did not invade and enslave people like the other religions
sorry andi meeru sri lanka antunnaru , manam invade cheyyaledu , only ASHOKAS SON SANGHAMITRA AND DAUGHTER WENT THERE TO SPREAD BUDDHISM , TARVATA THEY ASSSIMILATED THE LANKA TRADITIONS AND ALSO THE BUDDHISM
please note this is not invasion and by definition i talked about hindu kings not buddhist kings}
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Razmataz
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Username: Razmataz
Post Number: 1
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 23, 2004 - 8:55 pm: | |
ee discussion chaala bagundi, meeriaddaru cheppe vishayalu chala naku teliyavu.
naku konni doubts vunnani
Konni vella yella kritam pettina rules ni inka samardhinchukovadam samanjasama?
ye matam kanivvandi, islam christianity, hinduism.. avi appati paristitulani patti aa samajam lo goppa vallu(like Prophet muhamed, christ,sankaraacharyulu) konni principles chepparu. are the destortions in the society due to people who took their own meaning for the words great people said forgetting about spirit??
Mana hindumatam gani india kani, pakka vallani invade cheyyaka povataniki mana tolerence karanama? leka avakasam leka povatama. ee doubt ki karanam, manam srilanka ni invade chesam(that's the south extremity we can go)we had too many kingdoms in India itself invading each other. we had the barrier of himalayas on north is it not the reason for our being rather insulated from the world??
finally, if a rule is distorted by people, is it not the weakness of the rule.
tappulunte kshaminchandi naku edo kutuhalam to post chestunna.
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Sarangadhara
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Username: Sarangadhara
Post Number: 74
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 23, 2004 - 7:18 pm: | |
1.7kondalu mama first comment ni vadileyyi nannu annavu emo anukunnanu .
2.yes islam and christianity gurinchi tarvata discuss cheddamu , mana intini vadilesi vallani anatam ledu mama , anywaz tarvata discuss cheddamu vati gurinchi
3.sadly grass root level lo aa changes raledu oppukuntanu , kani matam tappu ante oppukonu mama , adi majjalo swartha parulu chesinavi , tappakunda adi socha neeyam and very sad but society is slowly realizing kani original matam lo ledu mama.
4.MAMA JOGINI VYAVSTHA IS NOT AT ALL PART OF HINDU SYSTEM , ALA AMMAYILANI PAPAM BALI TEESUKUNNA VALLANI LIVE POST MORTEM CHESINA PAPAM LEDU
ika pote you wanted proof of how buddhist centres became like that , istanu
1.REASON IF ALL OF US BECOME SANYASIS OR MONKS WITHOUT PROPER BELEIF APPUDU MAJJALO MANAM VADILESI AA DESIRES KI TIKKA PANULU CHESTAMU KADA
2.KING KUDA ALA TAYARU AYITE THEN INKA APE VADU EVARU VUNTADU
3.ANDARIKI AA PATH SUITABLE KADU , ORIGINAL THING WAS GOOD I MEAN ORIGINAL MEANING OF BUDDHISM BUT PEOPLE DANINI ALA CHESARU
proof kavali ante ivvagalanu some references kani dani tarvata beleive cheyyatam cheyyakapovatam logic batti nee meeda vuntundi mama
IT is nice to discuss with you openly now , wish this continues amicably }
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7kondalu
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Username: 7kondalu
Post Number: 21
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 160.33.98.119
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 23, 2004 - 5:12 pm: | |
1.Chala santhosham mama direct ga nannu vruddhdivi ani tittavu,
>> ninnu thidithe naaku emisthondi mama ?? samajam lo unna evils ki nivvu karanam kaadu kada, ninnu thittadaniki.
nenu edo excuses ivvaledu , nee prakaram islam and christianity tolerant annavu , ayite asalu why divide the world into kafirs and non beleivers
>> nenu ekkada kuda islam ni kaani christianity ni kaani pogada ledu, same time asalu vaati gurinchi kuda naaku gurthu unnanta varaku nenu eppudu discuss cheyyaledu. manam kompa chakka pettukokunda manam entha matladukunna emi laham ledu annadi na abhiprayam.
hindu matam ala cheyyalede .edo deshalani kolla gotti , dwamsam cheyyalede
>> dinni manam tharuvatha thirigga matladukundam. ledante mottham discssion pakka daari paduthundi.
ivi babai changes ani cheppanu ,NAA VERY FIRST REASON LO PEOPLE ANI CHEPPANU KANI IT WAS NOT THE TOTAL REASON
ASALU ISLAMIC INVASIONS LO COUNTRY CHALA BAGA VUNDI ANI NUVVU NAMMITE EMI CHEYYALENU MAMA , ANNI PROOFS CHOOPINCHAKA KUDA.
>> did I ever say that ?? islamic invasions vallana manam bagunnamu ani nenu ekkadanna cheppana ?? nenu cheppindi mana samajam lo evils ki islamic invasions kaani, nuddhism kaani partial ga ne karanam ani. avi modalavvaka munde mana samjam lo kulathathvam verrithalalu veyyadam modalayyindi.
2.aa vacchina changes ni nirmulinchataniki mahanubhavulu andariki malli alaya pravesham kalipincharu , andaru samunulu ani choopincharu .
>> mama andari ki alaya prevesam, samajam antha lo samanule anevi mana bhagavdgeetha lo no, indian constitution lo no unnayi kaani, inka root level lo alanti bhavana raaledu.
SOCIETY DOES NOT CHANGE ON ITS OWN , POWERFUL EVENTS CHANGE ITS SHAPE.
HINDU MATAM ANTA INTOLERANT AYITE AT THE HEIGHT OF ITS GLORY PRAPANCHAM MOTTANNI OKA UPU UPEDI
kani manam evarini kolla gotta ledu
>> as a Hindu I am really proud that naa matham prapanchanni oka oopu oopindi okappudu. kaani same time, naaku chala siggu ga kuda untundi current castist hindu society lo bhagam ayyinanduku.
3.AA TIME KI BUDDHISH CENTRES BECAME CENTRES WHERE PROSTITUTION , ROBBERS AND ANTI SOCIAL ELEMENTS USED TO STAY , ALA CHEYYALSI VACCHINDI , ONCE UPON A TIME AVI TEMPLES KANI TARVATA ALA MARCHARU INTO MONASTERIES
SAMAJAM NI SARI CHEYYATANIKI CHESINA PANI MAMA
SHOW ME ONE MORE EXAMPLE IN HISTORY WHERE HINDU KINGS IVADED ANY OTHER CULTURE
choopincha levu mama , koncham vere side nunchi kuda alochinchu mama}
>> neevu cheppina excuse China vaadu tibet ni occupy cheyyadaniki cheppina execuse same. vaadu alage cheppadu.
I dont know where you got this from. if it is really true also, do you support the sajeeva samadhulu???
then why didnt we do the same thing to the people who encouraged basivini, jogini practices??
bathikunda ga ne charmam valichina vallani manam enduku sajeeva samdhulu cheyyaledu ?
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Sarangadhara
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Username: Sarangadhara
Post Number: 73
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 8:48 pm: | |
sare 7 kondalu mama , ee rojuki selavu , elagu neeku naaku ee discussion avutune vuntundi.
nice to hear some opinions from other side too , anywaz malli kalludam mama
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Sarangadhara
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Username: Sarangadhara
Post Number: 69
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 8:13 pm: | |
1.Chala santhosham mama direct ga nannu vruddhdivi ani tittavu,
nenu edo excuses ivvaledu , nee prakaram islam and christianity tolerant annavu , ayite asalu why divide the world into kafirs and non beleivers
hindu matam ala cheyyalede .edo deshalani kolla gotti , dwamsam cheyyalede
ivi babai changes ani cheppanu ,NAA VERY FIRST REASON LO PEOPLE ANI CHEPPANU KANI IT WAS NOT THE TOTAL REASON
ASALU ISLAMIC INVASIONS LO COUNTRY CHALA BAGA VUNDI ANI NUVVU NAMMITE EMI CHEYYALENU MAMA , ANNI PROOFS CHOOPINCHAKA KUDA.
2.aa vacchina changes ni nirmulinchataniki mahanubhavulu andariki malli alaya pravesham kalipincharu , andaru samunulu ani choopincharu .
SOCIETY DOES NOT CHANGE ON ITS OWN , POWERFUL EVENTS CHANGE ITS SHAPE.
HINDU MATAM ANTA INTOLERANT AYITE AT THE HEIGHT OF ITS GLORY PRAPANCHAM MOTTANNI OKA UPU UPEDI
kani manam evarini kolla gotta ledu
3.AA TIME KI BUDDHISH CENTRES BECAME CENTRES WHERE PROSTITUTION , ROBBERS AND ANTI SOCIAL ELEMENTS USED TO STAY , ALA CHEYYALSI VACCHINDI , ONCE UPON A TIME AVI TEMPLES KANI TARVATA ALA MARCHARU INTO MONASTERIES
SAMAJAM NI SARI CHEYYATANIKI CHESINA PANI MAMA
SHOW ME ONE MORE EXAMPLE IN HISTORY WHERE HINDU KINGS IVADED ANY OTHER CULTURE
choopincha levu mama , koncham vere side nunchi kuda alochinchu mama}
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7kondalu
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Username: 7kondalu
Post Number: 20
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 8:09 pm: | |
sarnagadhara, trust lo chala kulaala vallu unda vacchu, kaani vedadhyayanam vere kulaali ki nishedincha badindi ani na anubhava purvakam ga telusukunna (1990-94 madhya).
ippudu vallu kuda maari poyi andari ki vedadhyana avakasam ishte, nenu chesina post chala thappu.
kaani naaku telisi inka anthati maarpu aithe ledu.
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7kondalu
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Username: 7kondalu
Post Number: 19
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 8:05 pm: | |
bhuddism mana dourbhagyani ki evidham ga karanam???
bouddha aramala lo bouddhulani petti sajeeva samadhi chesinadi evaru???
mana hindu samajam chaala tolerant ani cheppukuntame, maari bhoddhula ni sajeeva samadhulu cheyyadam, kinda kulala vallani janthuvala kante heenam ga chudadam, shiva-vishnavula madhya godavalu mana hindu samajam gurinchi emani chebuthunnayi ??
hindu dhamram chala goppadi. thammudu thana vaadu aina dharmam cheppamannavi mana dharma sasthraalu. kaani sastha parirakshakulam ani cheppukune kontha mandi dharmanni bhrashtru pattincharu. anduke mana lo jathiya bhavam checchi poyindi.
ippudu thakkuva kulam vaadi ki devalaya prevesam lenappudu, evado sayibu vacchi devalayanni kollakottuku velthe vaadi ki poyedemiti ??
vadenduku vacchi devalayanni kapadadaniki thana praanalni pannam ga pettali ?
ilanti karanale mana e dhusthiti ki karanam. thappu bhuddism lo no, islam invasions lo no ledu, mana dharmanni acharinchadam lo thappu jarigindi. manam alanti thappulu diddu kunte manalni minchina jaathi undadu. leka pothe manam,
kontham mandi kurravallu puttuka tho ne vruddhulu,
thaatha gaari bhamma gaari bhavala ki daasulu,
pukarla ki pakeerla ki nibddulu,
kannulundi neti nijanni kaana leni keetaka sannasulu
anabadatham.
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Sarangadhara
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Username: Sarangadhara
Post Number: 68
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 8:01 pm: | |
kavalante vijayawada lo vunna valla seeta rama nagaram deggara vunna vallani leka pote swayam ga JET lo palugonna vallani adgavocchu
inka neeku direct ga cheppali ante , jeeyar trust lo ento mandi kammas , reddies , kapus and others vunnaru .
idi nenu edo post cheyyatam ledu mama , okka sari jet website lo members perlu choodu mama , prati nela bhakti nivedana lo vacche photos kuda choodu.
veda pata shala ni direct ga velli choodu , nenu cheppina danilo nijam vundo ledu telustundi
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Sarangadhara
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Username: Sarangadhara
Post Number: 67
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 7:59 pm: | |
7kondalu mama hindu matam lo guruvu padavi dari choopinchataniki but it maybe not be necessary.
NENU BABALU ,MEETA VALLANI NAMMAU , VEDAM PRAKARAM THE MAIN MUGGURU TRIMURTLU , AA AMMAVARULU .
konta mandi shakti ga poojistaru , konta mandi vishnuvu ga , konta mandi shivuni ga
all of creation ee muggurilone vuntundi.
GURUVU ANE VADU DARI CHOOPINCHE MARGA DARSI ANTE KANI BHAGAVANTUDU KADU , ADI VERRI JANAM ALA ANUKUNTARU
nuvvu evari gurinchi annavo kasta selavu istava .
nuvvu ganaka jeeyar swami varini ani vutne porabaddavu mama
valla ashramam lo samarkritulu (any caste who follows vaishanavism and guru ni sharanu vedina varu) they will be taught veda vidya
Velli nuvvu pratyakshanga chooste neeku telustundi
inka doubt vutne post cheyyi proof istanu}
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7kondalu
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 7:52 pm: | |
mahabharatam ni evadi ki kavalsinatlu vaadu anvayinchukuntu kathalu allaru ante neeku kopam vacchindi, original mahabharatham script ni tharuvaatha tharalu swartham kosam marchadam nijam kaada ??
vivekanandudu lanti vaadu inka konchem kalam bathiki unte bagundedi. mana duradrustham koddi alanti valluki eppudu alpayushe.
puranaalu, charithra lu enduku le kaani,
chala mandi nadiche devudu ga gouravinche oka noka pedda manishi ( monna ne TTD funds theesukunnadu ani godava kuda ayyindi), thana asramanni janala chandala tho naduputhu, vedadyayanam mathram oke kulam vallu arhulu antu, migatha vallaki thana veda patasala lo admission nirakarinchadu.
ilanti vallu nijam ga divamsasamhuthulu antava??
leka kula picchi gallu andama ??
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Sarangadhara
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Username: Sarangadhara
Post Number: 66
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 7:41 pm: | |
7kondalu mama neeku naa paina kopam vundocchu
kani ivi nenu rasina kattu kathalu kavu , vivekanandu antati vade oppukunnadu aa caste gurinchi aa changes gurinchi in his complete works
NAA AIM IS NOT TO FRAGMENT SOCIETY , EVEN I WANT TO SEE THE PEOPLE WHO WERE OPRESSED RECLAIM THEIR ORIGINAL RESPECTFUL PLACE IN HINDUISM
majjalo vacchina abdhallu ni just clarify chestunnanu naa prayatnam ga}
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Sarangadhara
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Username: Sarangadhara
Post Number: 65
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 7:36 pm: | |
1.even with above reasonign , no hindu scripture(vedas and upanishads , ramayana , mahabharat) support the seesam thing poured in ears
naaku telisina anta varaku alanti verse ledu
ya majjalo swartha parulu used the manu dharma shastra
but as i said it is not considered the guiding one ento mandi kalam kramam lo danilo changes vacchi the present one is not the right one
PLEASE NOT THE VEDAS AND UPANISHADS ARE NOT WRITTEN BY HUMANS LIKE MANU , SO THEY ARE THE RIGHT ONES AND THEY NEVER SUPPORTED.}
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Sarangadhara
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Post Number: 64
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 7:33 pm: | |
original system lo kulanni janma to mudi petta ledu votti swabhavam to mudi pettaru.
appudu chedda vallaki knowledge dooram vundali for the safety of others ani just dooram petti vundocchu (when i mean it is by behaviour not by birth)
MAMA DONT TAKE MANU DHARMA SHASTRA AS HINDU GUIDANCE LINES , IT IS NOT CONSIDERED AS THE MAIN SCRIPTURE
adi rasina time different , and i dont support it either
NO MODERN HINDU THINKER LIKE VIVEKANDA HAS SUPPORTED IT
so meeta posts chaduvu mama anything else please let me know }
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Sarangadhara
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Post Number: 63
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 7:29 pm: | |
7kondalu mama nuvvu cheppina dani lo nijam vundi as far as seesam and other things are concerned
kani aa rules are not there in hindusim mama , nijam cheptunnanu , evaro swartha parulu majjalo vacchina changes ni asara ga teesukoni meeta vargalani badha pettaru
adi kshamincha rani neram kadu ananu kani matanni anaku mama , ee changes ki kuda social economic related to caste reasons vunnayi
anwayz read the other links }
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7kondalu
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 7:19 pm: | |
thread archives lo ki velli poyindi.
CJ mama, nenu ma friend daggara vinna leka books lo chadivina kaani, agastyudu vindhya parvathalani daati vacchaadu anedi oka nammakam unda leda ??
coming to your question, nenu agasthyudu gurinchi chadivindi nijam, kaani appatlo naaku agathya gothram unnatle teliyadu. so ma friend cheppaka, vadini adiga, meeku vindhya parvathaalu daati vacchina agasthydu ki emanna sambandam unda ani. vaadu kuda valla intlo vallu chepthunte same story vinnadu ani cheppadu.
sarangadhara babai, neevemo pandithudivi pedda pedda links isthavu. nenemo edo chinna chitaka poragadi ni, na mind lo undi raasthunta.
nenu raasindi thappaithe cheppu mama.
anthe kaani bhagadgeetha lo krushnudu ila cheppadu ala cheppadu ane kante, manaku andubaatulo unna charithra chudu babai.
vedalu vinna thakkuva kulam valla chevullo seasam poyadam nijam kaada ?
thakkuva kulam vallu nadisthe roadlu mila padathaayi ani, valla venuku cheepurlu kattinchi nadipinchindi nijam kaada ??
go (cow) hathya chesaru ani, bathikunda gane tholu valichindi nijam kada ?
nee migatha posts inka chadava ledu. avi chadivi reply istha
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