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Bestboy
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Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 3:22 pm:Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

proline...

too good post...

all these buggers who talks against hindus do not know the history or gorgot the history or hippos or (power and money hungry people wihout any values)
NATANALO MAHAARADHI NBK CINEMAALALO MR MANA MR
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Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 12:58 pm:Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Sentient Folks who are making politically correct statements,convent educated elites, Egalitarian humanists who refuse to see reality and instead living in thier own utopia, Apologits for minorities, Militant pacifists who rave about Gandhi & his cronies ,Cretins,Pseudo secularists, Minority appeasers, Psychophants , Invertebrate slugs, and other Reptilean brains who are still slithering in Jurassic period .... who are blowing hot-air and making hue and cry over Gujarat riots ..


First let me answer the question u posed ?

.....Why should other people who have nothing to do with the Train massacre should be penalised ? ....

1... People who may not DIRECTLY commit the crime but who sympathise with the perpetrators , provide material/logistic& other support or Fundamentalists with thier cause based on Religion and creed are equally culpable and deserve the justice ( The Important premise of any Criminal Justice system )

2...."' Doctrine of Collective Punishment "" explained by Sun Tzu in The Art of War (Chinese military treatise written during the 6th century BC ) which is followed world wide in all Military justice system.

Ex- What wrong has done 1.5 million Japanese who are annihilated by American atom bomb who have nothing to do with Pearll harbour ?? ( They are all normal civilians, living in a sovereign country who haven't done any thing directly to America )

This is collective punishment which is accepted if u beleive in a Just War ........if u don't believe in war itself ...good for u, live in in ur own Gandhian Pacifist utopia who suggested that Jews should sacrifice themselves to Hitler, so that they can have good fun in heavens ( Nirvana) - ROFL ...actual words uttered by ur favorite Gandhi , i bet u won't see this in ur convent educated crap ...

What happened in Gujarat is failure of Criminal Justice - People have no faith in the rule of law and took charge on their own and did the deliverance ....
( Who will have faith in Justice if u let the criminals out based ont heir religion - A terrorist who shot an ACP in Vizag got released from jail and gone scot free, cos of he is a muslim )


1...My question to you

Pakistan - After the independence Hindu population in Pakistan fell from 4 million to 2 million in these 50 yrs - what happend to those 2 million people ?As is the same case with Bangladesh about which Tasleema Nasreen wrote in her very number of books ...

On the contrary Muslim population in India rose from 15 % to 25 % in these 50 yrs .........Second largest muslim population after Indonesia ..

What happened to 50,000 kashmiri pandits ( Kashmir Genocide ) who are killed or displaced in these 50 yrs ??
There are total 102 interreligious clashes occured in Gujarat before Modi govt and when Congress was in power - high number becuse Guajrat borders Pakistan ...
In all of these clashes 80 % victims were Hindus ( Those are ur arch enemies of so called secularism )

.......where were u or ur SO CALLED media ? ........
( I guess u were happily sleeping and dreaming about ur secualr urheimat and only wake up if some reactive infraction happens to Minorities, so that u can have a go to make politically correct statements and gloat about the virtues of Selective application of secularism and other glorius principles - what an Irony - LOL )


My final question ...
Pick any Official musilm country you want ( rougly around 40 in the world declared themselves as Muslim countries as opposed to secular ) starting from indonesia in asia pacific zone to Mid east to Horn of Africa to Turkey in Europe - Tell me about how minorites are doing there and what are the rights ??

I bet u can't show me any single country where minorites are having as much fun as they are having in India like having perks and pampers for bombing cities, torching trains, killing people in the name of religion and by doing this all still they are having apologits - what a Mockery ? LOL

Now look @ them how they r doing ?....
A small example - Women are not allowed to drive in Saudi arabia ( They say that women are more prone to do accidents and men are easily diverted if women drive - LOL )

Any religion other than Muslim is heretic and u don't have right to pratice - LOL


This is only tip of the iceberg and i can write a whole eipc book on how women and minorities are doing in ur favorite muslim countires

Now comeon ...........sling ur apologies, spin and show ur political correctness :-)

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Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 10:24 am:Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Truth about Tehelka:

http://truecongresspolitics.wordpress.com/2007/10/ 25/truth-about-tehalka/

Rediff analysis on how this might help Modi:
The revelations in the footage of Tehelka's sting operation, exposing the roles of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad, the Bajrang Dal and the Bharatiya Janata Party in the 2002 Gujarat riots will certainly shame every Indian who believes in the Constitution and its secular ethos.
The issue of communalism in Gujarat, that petrifying violent thought behind the killing of helpless passengers on the Sabarmati Express or the killings of Muslims during the riots that followed are issues which will be analysed relentlessly. But the instant fallout of the expose is not difficult to predict.

The expose has become another negative for Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi.

Of course, in the short run it will help the BJP and Modi because it may polarise Hindu votes.

External Link: The Tehelka expose

Take a look at the evidence against Modi. They won't put the chief minister in prison but they will yet again erode his credibility, which is crucial in his endeavour to become a national hero.

Says Tehelka Editor (Investigations) Harinder Baweja, "Narendra Modi, a custodian of the law, volunteered to let his state resemble a killing field." Tehelka obtained a series of interviews with the accused in the communal riots who allege Modi either inspired them, or helped them, and even lauded their murders.

Since hidden cameras have not yet gained credibility in the eye of the law, Modi may put up a brave face in public, but the Sangh Parivar will have to worry about the judicial consequences for the people boasting about their crimes on camera.

The statements of the alleged perpetrators will also be hard to ignore for the Justice Nanavati Commission, which is already preparing to wind up its probe into the 2002 riots. The expose demands judicial attention and it will be difficult for the Commission to close the probe without going through the fresh evidence.

One of the alleged perpetrators said Modi was furious after the Godhra train carnage while then public prosecutor Arvind Pandya revealed Modi would have exploded bombs had he not been in power.

A BJP MLA said Modi allowed them to go on killing Muslims for the first three days after the Godhra incident. In short, Tehelka claims that Modi himself wanted revenge and the horrific violence against the Muslims was well orchestrated by none other than the state chief minister.

The expose shows many alleged perpetrators giving chilling accounts of the crimes they committed during the riots.

The interviews are so nauseating and insensitive that they sound unreal. At some places they sound like the random blabbering of rowdies.

One finds no reason to doubt that Tehelka's motive was to get closer to the truth of the 2002 riots.

But as soon as television channels Aaj Tak and Headlines Today screened the footage, the overwhelming opinion in Gujarat was that such an expose a few weeks before the election would help Modi and harm his opponents within the party led by Keshubhai Patel.

Gordhanbhai Zadaphia, Gujarat home minister during the riots, will probably curse Tehelka for ruining his political battle against Modi.

The Congress will apply pressure on leaders like Ahmed Patel not to allow rebel BJP leaders like Zadarphia into the Congress.

"The Congress will be the loser," says Vikram Vakil, a senior journalist based in Gujarat.

"Modi was desperate to regain his image as a Hindutva hero. He was losing his sheen. By using such an expose in a political battle will the Congress play into Modi's hands? The expose might be an advantage for Modi," he felt.

It is commonly accepted that Modi's image as a Hindutva hero will be strengthened if the expose gets enough publicity.

"He was desperate to revive this fading image in a controlled manner. The expose has helped Modi, albeit not on his own terms," a senior Congressman in Ahmedabad said.

The revelations have come at time when Modi faces pressure from all sides.

Caste may overshadow religion in Gujarat poll

On one side, he confronts serious rebellion within the BJP in Saurashtra. The Kolis, an important factor among the Other Backward Classes (Kolis are bigger in numbers than the Patels) are upset with him and bargaining for more election tickets.

The Congress is also showing sign of tightening up its act.

Religious figures, who gave him their blessings before the state election five years ago, are now issuing statements against Modi for not helping the cause of Hindutva.

The Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh in Gujarat has issued an unprecedented statement that the RSS will remain neutral in this election. The Sangh Parivar in the state is divided like never before.

Coverage: The Gujarat Election, 2007

Former BJP leader Uma Bharti is raring to prove Modi a fake Hindutva hero. The rebel BJP faction is trying to establish how Modi is selling Gujarat cheap to the richest of rich Gujaratis.

Arjun Modhavadia, leader of the Opposition in the state assembly, told rediff.com that the communal vote will get polarised due to the expose, but Modi's credibility will be dented. The expose will thus prove to be a double-edged sword.

On rediff.com's message board, many Muslim readers said the truth shown by the expose was known but is only now being disclosed on tape.

Muslim readers feel that because the expose has come on the eve of the assembly election, the political angle will remain in greater focus than the human angle.

On the balance, it can be said that Modi cannot remain unaffected whenever truth, half-truths or allegations are hurled against him about the 2002 riots.

He himself has not put a full stop to the bloody chapter of 2002. He has always kept open the option to resurrect the Hindutva agenda by not getting closer to the Muslim community, socially or politically, nor has he, as a head of a state government, gone the extra mile to bridge the decades-old divide between Hindus and Muslims.

His core group must now be worried that the ghosts of the 2002 riots will keep him tied down within the borders of Gujarat.

The Congress is looking at the BJP after the Atal Bihari Vajpayee-L K Advani era. The dynastic politics of the Congress has ensured that there is not much to predict about its future leadership. After Sonia Gandhi [Images], Rahul Gandhi [Images] is being groomed to become the fountainhead of power. Priyanka Vadhra is always eligible to become the queen of the Congress party.

The importance of the expose lies in the fact that Modi with his communal image will help Rahul Gandhi look cleaner in our diverse and plural society.

One of Modi's key supporters in Ahmedabad told rediff.com that the expose will confine Modi to Gujarat giving Rahul Gandhi a clear advantage.

Also, who doesn't remember how the American government refused Modi a visa to travel to the US in 2005?

http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/oct/26sheela.htm
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Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 10:11 am:Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Eee time lo Congi vaallu idhi release chesi Modi malli heroni chesaaaru.
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Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 10:02 am:Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

kathi laga rasadu evado kani. gujarat lo modi gadu gelavali ee sariki. lekapothe, cong. addu adupu undadu. akkada modi vodipothe, following week mid-term polls announce cheyatam khayam.
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Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 9:40 am:Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Evaro kaaani kummaru...

I have the same feeling about congress...

PV Narasimha Rao gariki inkkoka 5yrs chance ichinattu ayithe congress naama ruppalu lekundaa chesevaadu.... bad luck India that time...
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Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 9:33 am:Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Following is from a post on a different forum:


Congress interpretations of some of the similiar events is as follows -

Sikhs getting slaughered in thousands = A MISTAKE.
Hindus getting killed in Kashmir = Political problem.
Muslims getting killed by a few hundred = Holocaust.
Poor protestors getting shot in WB under Left Govt = Misunderstanding.

Banning Parzania in Gujarat = Communal.
Banning Da Vinci Code and Jo Bole So Nihaal = Secular.
{Hey, what about the Marathiu play 'Mee Nathuram Godse bolchey'}

Kargil Attack = Government failure.
Chinese invasion in 1962 = Unfortunate betrayal.

Reservations in every school and college on caste lines = Secular. Reservations in Minority institutions = Communal.

Fake encounters in Gujarat [Sohrabuddin] = BJP Communalism.
Fake encounters under Cong-NCP in Maharashtra [Khwaja Younus] = Police atrocity.

Talking about Hindus and Hinduism appeasment = Communal.
Talking about Muslims and Islam = Secular.

BJP freeing 3 terrorists to save 100 Indian hostages = Shameful
Congress freeing 4 militants to save just a life of one daughter of its minister in Kashmir [Rubina Sayed] = Natural Political dilemma.

Attack on Parliament = BJP ineptitude.
Not hanging Afzal Guru the mastermind despite Supreme Court orders = Humanity and Political dilemma.

BJP questioning Islam = Communal.
Congress questioning Lord Rama's existance = Clerical Error.

Is there any end to Congress and it's shameless supporters hypocrisy.
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Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 8:48 am:Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Debba ki debba ba prathi saari samadhanam kaadu kaani, Ee congress vallau prathi daaniki Muslims ni support chesi anavasaram gaa ilantivatini rech koduthunnaru...

Hindu-Muslim godavalaki reason Congree ani nenu kachitham nammuthanu.

Paigaa ivala mana state lo kaani country lo jaruguthunna terror attacks kuda Congree party dhe responsibility ani naa abhiprayam.

Entha pro-muslim ayina, maree antha guddi gaa andarni support cheyya kudadhu votes kosam...
parliment meedha attack chesinavaadini kudaa muslim ani vadilesthe inkendhu arrest cheyyataalu thokka tholu...
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Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 7:54 am:Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

freak mama baaga seppav
ADMIN KI MANAVI:Mahesbabu sinema plop ayyithe,BTDB santhibadratala drustya, PILS gadi MOD padavi peekeyyali
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Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 7:42 am:Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

narendra modi zindabad.. ittanti vallu vunnaru kabatte koddiga controll loo vunnaru sayab LKs .. lekapothee inkemanna naa.. appudu denemma ndtv and media full gaa against gaa picha picha try chesaruu after the riots in polls.. kaani dimma tirigee response icharuu .. rajeep sardesai gaadu next day K moskonii ground meedakochadu.. denemma sayab nayallaaki koddiga emaina mannollu oooo naakii dobbtaruu .. narendra modi gaadu rocks antheee ..
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Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 5:14 am:Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Nuvvu kutha muyyamma OA dengakundaa, Narendra Modi gaadi lanti vallu vuntene repu Gujarath lo Hindhu's meeda attack cheyyali ante bayapadatharu....
Idhi naa bewarse talk....
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Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 4:31 am:Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

asala modi gadini ella support chestaru raa babu..
None is worse than other.. and Everyone is better than the other..
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Posted on Thursday, October 25, 2007 - 10:57 pm:Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

KC. eellu chesinadaaniki retaliation kadaa adi

ee edavalu enthamandini vandala samvahsaraalnundhi champaledu..

ennin vela temples naasanam cheyyaledu..

nothing wrong in it..

anthenduku hyd rajakaar movementlo velaadi mandi maana praanaalu thessaru..

congress naayaalu muslims ni sonia ni nethhina pettuduku(reservations. haj funds/minority colleges, loans for minorities anni isthaaru)..

hinduvulani thokkuthaaru..
NATANALO MAHAARADHI NBK CINEMAALALO MR MANA MR
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Posted on Thursday, October 25, 2007 - 10:46 pm:Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

http://www.andhrajyothy.com/mainshow.asp?qry=/2007 /oct/25main15
Idhi naa bewarse talk....