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Kingchoudary
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Username: Kingchoudary
Post Number: 11651
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 203.199.220.66
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 8:34 am: |    |
Thappemundi vallu anna dantlo |
Conqueror
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Username: Conqueror
Post Number: 179
Registered: 04-2005
Posted From: 81.115.31.217
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 7:59 am: | |
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Klien
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Username: Klien
Post Number: 108
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 80.121.144.9
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 7:55 am: | |
bapanolla medha paddara.. |
Thikamaka
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Username: Thikamaka
Post Number: 5519
Registered: 08-2004
Posted From: 203.101.70.39
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 3:28 am: | |
assalu thala thoka leni religion dhaaniniki convert avvamani dabbulu ivvadam,forcible conversions etc...chass ee pepancham antha paduchesi dobbuthunnaru!!  |
Thikamaka
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Username: Thikamaka
Post Number: 5517
Registered: 08-2004
Posted From: 203.101.70.39
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 3:25 am: | |
ee Xians popes andharini varasaga nuncho petti valla g lo KC gunapam doorchaali!!  |
Eeidlagolayenti
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Username: Eeidlagolayenti
Post Number: 144
Registered: 03-2005
Posted From: 65.115.93.118
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 7:10 pm: | |
ledu maama regime change tho channels konni moosukupothayyi.. eedu asale musalodu yemi chestaadu paapam..
yedaina 3 rojulu santaapam anedi anyayam kaneesam oka 10 rojulu ichundaalsindi india lo. conversion machinery jindaabad..  |
Sollu
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Username: Sollu
Post Number: 7788
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 144.160.130.16
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 7:08 pm: | |
kothadu inka konni estra scemes pedathadule kangaru padamaka |
Eeidlagolayenti
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Username: Eeidlagolayenti
Post Number: 143
Registered: 03-2005
Posted From: 65.115.93.118
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 7:07 pm: | |
kiki
nenu appude cheppaa...
aa pope povatam tho india ki chala nashtam.. talaki 1000 rupayalu. 100 mandini maarishthe free daba illu.. yenni shcemulu miss avutharo indians... |
Sollu
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Username: Sollu
Post Number: 7752
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 144.160.130.16
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 4:52 pm: | |
salman yeppe ade kada meaning |
Bhrigu
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Username: Bhrigu
Post Number: 5672
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 69.228.253.113
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 4:24 pm: | |
so, kotha pope aim kooda idenaa ? |
Ranga
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Username: Ranga
Post Number: 2405
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 65.208.22.26
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 2:32 pm: | |
We must praise and respect any person involved in selfless humanitarian work irrespective of his or her religious belief. But as soon as that work is done with ulterior motive, it no longer remains a saintly deed. Mother Teresa's work falls into the second category.
Unfortunately, glowing tributes were paid to her by the pseudo-secularist leaders of India, Indian newspapers, and several Westernized Indians, without examining her mission in India.
Mother Teresa was wedded to the Catholic Church, particularly the Vatican establishment, whose main mission is to convert people in developing countries into Christianity by any means, now that Europeans are abandoning church membership and Christianity in increasing numbers. (But for imported Indian priests and nuns many European churches would have to close doors because Europeans seminaries are unable to fill their vacancies with Europeans.) In the early days of Christianity, those who refused to believe in Jesus were first branded as heretics and witches and then killed or burnt at the stake. In the name of the holy wars, military missions were sent which resulted in millions of people being massacred in South America. To perpetuate the forces of imperialism in Asia and Africa, the Western powers fit like a hand in glove with the Christians, dictators and mafia people.
Christian Church used their money and military might to convert the natives into Christianity. Following the dictum 'the end justifies the means,' the Christian Church had to devise new means to convert Asians and Africans into Christianity after the demise of the Western Imperialism. Along with this came a breed of Christian evangelists guided and financed by the Vatican and the Western powers to carry on the crusade by using the label of "poverty and disease" as their weapons. That is exactly what Mother Teresa was doing in India.
Mother Teresa portrayed India as a poor, starving, and a diseased land to her Western donors who responded by filling her coffers so that she could continue her mission of converting the poor and illiterate of India. She effectively used the converted Indian nuns for this purpose and thereby achieved her major mission of the Church. Mother Teresa, the founder of the "Missionaries of Charity" was a crafty user of public relations as pointed out by Christopher Hitchens in his recent book, The Missionary Position: Mother Teresa in Theory and Practice.
The Western media played a big role in projecting her as a saint and savior of the poor. This powerful media at the same time told the world that Indians, particularly the Hindus, don't care for their helpless people and hence a foreign Christian saint has to perform that job.
The Christian Church and the Western media succeeded in convincing many of the Indian leaders and the westernized Indians that Mother Teresa was a great saint and therefore should be given a state funeral, an honor reserved only for great leaders of India. She was equated by one of the Indian leaders with Mahatma Gandhi. In doing so, then Indian Prime Minister, Mr. Gujaral, and leaders of other political parties excepting the BJP confirmed to the world that the Indians are incapable of taking care of their own poor and sick people. Indian leaders like Gujaral have insulted Gandhi, and also other Bharatiya spiritual, political leaders and people by equating Mother Teresa with them. Even the Communists who have ruled West Bengal state for the last 29 years and kept a certain distance from Teresa have a soft spot for her. They bent the rules so she could be buried at the order’s headquarters, where she had lived, instead of a cemetery.
Gandhi was extremely articulate in opposing the conversion activities of Christian missionaries in India and questioned their motives in establishing educational institutions and other services in India. The following views are cited from Arun Shourie's 302-page book, Missionaries in India New Delhi, (ASA Publications, 1994):
"There was a deeper problem with these services, and Gandhiji drew attention to it again and again. The services were incidental. They were the means. The objective was to convert the natives to Christianity. "The Collected Works of Gandhi" contain several accounts as do Mahadev Desai's "Diaries" in which missionaries acknowledged to Gandhiji that the institutions and services are incidental, that the aim is to gather a fuller harvest of converts for the Church.
Gandhi has written in MY EXPERIMENTS WITH TRUTH, on pages 28-9, part I, Ch.X, named “GLIMPSES OF RELIGION”. Mahatma Gandhi has described how he came into contact of various religions in his childhood due to his
father. He writes:
"Only Christianity was at that time an exception. I developed a sort of dislike for it. And for a reason. In those days Christian missionaries used to stand in a corner near the high school and hold forth, pouring abuse on Hindus and their gods. I could not endure that. I must have stood there to hear them once only, but that was enough to dissuade me from repeating the experiment. About the same time, I heard of a well-known Hindu having been converted to Christianity. It was the talk of the town that, when he was baptized, he had to eat beef and drink liquor, that he also had to change his clothes, and that henceforth he began to go about in European costume including a hat. These things got on my nerves. Surely, thought I, a religion that compelled one to eat beef, drink liquor, and change one's own clothes did not deserve the name. I also heard that the new convert had already begun abusing the religion of his ancestors, their customs and their country. All these things created in me a dislike for Christianity".
From: (Journalist Gandhi, Selected writings of Gandhi, compiled by SUNIL SHARMA, , published by Gandhi Book center, Bombay Sarvodaya, Mandal, Mumbai- 400 007).
Gandhi: "If I had the power and could legislate, I should certainly stop all proselytising." (Collected Works, Vol 61, page 46-47)
"To gain acces to non-Christian households, counsels the 'Catholic Dharma ka Pracharak,' [How to Preach the Catholic Religion] the preacher should know something of medicine. He will then be sought after whenever there is some illness in the house. Once there, he should try to prevail upon the parents that he should be allowed to baptize the child, as the baptism would aid the child's recovery. If they do not agree, says the guide: 'If it is clear to you that the father is not going to agree to the child being baptized, and, as far as you can see, the child is close to death, then, on the pretext of administering some medicine, sprinkle water on his head in some secret way and pronounce the words of baptism. O, preacher, should the child die, you would have opened the gates of heaven for this child. Is this not a good deed? Now, if every preacher were to devote himself to his work, then how many children would they send to heaven in a year?' " (Shourie, page 7-8)
The Missionaries of Charity are, for a change, the beneficiaries of some divine benevolence what with Mother Teresa all set to become a Saint, courtesy, Pope. No complaints about that for it makes little sense to a communal ignoramus and a sinner to boot like any nationalist Hindu. But it is really surprising that the beatification of Mother Teresa should be written about in so reverential terms by the national, nay, rational dailies of the country while they habitually baulk at such similar Hindu rituals, let alone, miracles and miss no opportunity to deride the Sai Baba or the Shankaracharya on flimsy reasons. Indeed, it is quite revealing of their duplicity that is continuously getting exposed with every passing day, mornings to be precise, making one flinch in distaste at even the customary coffee that is otherwise invigorating.
There are millions of Hindus who have done more for humanity than Mother Teresa and all Catholic Saints. Some such saints were Swami Vivekanada, Swami Sharadananda, Swami Dayananda, Mata Amritanandamayi, Lok Manaya Tilak, Pt. Madan Mohan Malaviya, Bhai Paramveer and many more. Recently there was one article where the contribution of many Hindu saints and reformers were mentioned. According to one organization and Radio program, Pingalwada of Punjab has done thousand times more contribution to humanity than mother Teresa. The major difference between Hindu saints and Christian saints is that Hindu saints do not go after recognition, rewards, and awards. For them public reward is more than sufficient. Public service gives them more satisfaction.
All secular, pseudo-secular, communists, anti-Hindu people are of Tamasic nature. These people would not care what argument is, since their tamas shield them from true understanding. Wisdom prohibits debating a person who is tamasik, abusive, and ignorant. Secular or a communist and /or a convert love to denigrate our Hindu religion, culture tradition, Sanskrit and pure Hindi. Also it is not worth the time and effort to worry about what secular tamasic people are saying.
It is universal truth that Christian Missionaries exist to harvest and promote their religion. Funds that are siphoned to the minority outfits are not questioned by the politicians or by the governments. The nationalized banks pose so many questions to individuals who remit their hard earned money, whereas, they are silenced by the enormous amounts that are remitted in to the country for conversion and promoting terrorism. What has the media done in the interest of the nation? The media did everything possible to increase their circulation and audience trampling the Hindu sentiments, and the politicians only wanted to safeguard their vote banks. |
Sollu
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Username: Sollu
Post Number: 7720
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 144.160.130.16
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 2:31 pm: | |
appudu alla m lu alle seekkuntaru |
Bhrigu
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Username: Bhrigu
Post Number: 5652
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 69.228.253.113
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 2:31 pm: | |
duniyaa lo andarini xtians chesesaaka em chesthaaro |
Rajnikanth
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Username: Rajnikanth
Post Number: 36
Registered: 04-2005
Posted From: 65.93.48.45
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 2:29 pm: | |
enna da JAATHI MATHAM ella waste
ennodu padam BABA paaraanga ellaru...
ungalkku nalla BUDDI varudu |
Prasanth
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Username: Prasanth
Post Number: 12601
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 203.199.213.130
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 2:18 pm: | |
 adigaa... |
Sollu
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Username: Sollu
Post Number: 7710
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 144.160.130.16
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 2:18 pm: | |
aa post sadivavo ledo ani test sesa
sadivavannamata |
Ranga
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Username: Ranga
Post Number: 2404
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 65.208.22.26
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 2:17 pm: | |
>> evadanna fanatics ani ante aadu pedda fanatic gadu ani ardham <<
Intha thelisina vaadivi, Pakka thread lo nuvvu nannu fanatic annaavu?  |
Jonny
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Username: Jonny
Post Number: 227
Registered: 04-2005
Posted From: 211.28.246.196
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 2:16 pm: | |
>>>deniki thanks thingaroda..cheppededo unte seppu....
aaa endukule mama. ikkada antha oka party. manam okkallame single ayipotamu. anduke. thanks. |
Sollu
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Username: Sollu
Post Number: 7708
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 144.160.130.16
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 2:13 pm: | |
ranga babai edanna kani evadanna fanatics ani ante aadu pedda fanatic gadu ani ardham
avathali vallu avuno kadu anedi tharuvatha isayam |
Prasanth
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Username: Prasanth
Post Number: 12600
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 203.199.213.130
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 2:12 pm: | |
deniki thanks thingaroda..cheppededo unte seppu........ |
Jonny
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Username: Jonny
Post Number: 225
Registered: 04-2005
Posted From: 211.28.246.196
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 2:11 pm: | |
>>>Ika mother teresa charities MUSUGULO enni lakshala mandini Xians gaa maarchindo, aa painunna pope ke eruka.
thanks! |
Ranga
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Username: Ranga
Post Number: 2402
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 65.208.22.26
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 2:09 pm: | |
Ika mother teresa charities MUSUGULO enni lakshala mandini Xians gaa maarchindo, aa painunna pope ke eruka.
Vaalla matham vaallu goppa anukunte farvaalaa, kaani pakka matham vaallu chaadasthulu, MathaChaandasulu, religious fanatics antene kopam vacchedi.
. |
Schummy
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Username: Schummy
Post Number: 879
Registered: 09-2004
Posted From: 68.49.139.186
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 2:05 pm: | |
Ippudu jaruguthunna matha conversions gurinchi maatlaadaali ante
1. Sonia Gandhi (All xhristain CMs)
2. YSR
3. YSR alludu (Pavitra brahmin gaa putti , YSR kuuthiri kosam naaku prabhuvu kana bhaddadu ani last 20 years nunchi prachaaram chesthunadu . Ippudu ayethe abhikaaram thi inkaa janlaani lo bharuchukuntunnadu ) .
4. Ninna bangalore lo USA nunchi okadu vachi pelethe BJK kaarya karthalu buddhi chepparu .
Ika pothe Sonia sister sister gaa vundi entho krushi chesthundhi mission perutho .
inkaa POPE recent gaa ichina statement
konni matha sakthukhulu conversion ki addupaduthunnayee ani Jai lalitha gurinchi ichina statement
2020 ki india christain country gaa maaruthadhi ani pope icchina statement .
la cheppuku pothe enno ennenno .. |
Sollu
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Username: Sollu
Post Number: 7703
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 144.160.130.16
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 2:03 pm: | |
eti 1893 vadu annada? inka latest ga vachinavadu annadanukunna
aadu definitega devunni cherukoledu konni vela janmalu ethina kuda
ee mathamu ayina seppedi okkate kakapothe okadiki telugulo sebithe ardham ayithadi inkodiki english lone seppali alane religions and vati books
to gain the trust of a soul is important for a guru to lead him to "the final destination"
emi teleeni fellow ni naake telusu kani matha guruvulu ani mata pracharam ani sese ellaki eppudu telisenu? |
Aanaluguru
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Username: Aanaluguru
Post Number: 13
Registered: 04-2005
Posted From: 64.105.207.250
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 2:01 pm: | |
Munda Nayalu |
Ranga
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Username: Ranga
Post Number: 2401
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 65.208.22.26
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 1:59 pm: | |
Eppudo 1893 year lo Pope anna daaniki ippudu aayaasam tecchukunte etlaa Sollu/SinghZ.
Ippudu jaruguthunna Religious Conversions gurinchi cheppandi. |
Jonny
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Username: Jonny
Post Number: 223
Registered: 04-2005
Posted From: 211.28.246.196
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 1:57 pm: | |
>>>itlalian prime ministerlu, mother teresa la valla hinduthvaaniki jarige nashtam anthaa inthaa kaadu.
konchem aa nashtalento chepte vini telusukuntam. |
Jonny
Pilla Bewarse
Username: Jonny
Post Number: 222
Registered: 04-2005
Posted From: 211.28.246.196
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 1:54 pm: | |
>>>Real indian Rahul
cool kadha? |
Kalki
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Username: Kalki
Post Number: 394
Registered: 04-2005
Posted From: 129.33.49.251
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 1:54 pm: | |
Dwaramu tericheyee unnadi,doore vallu dooravacchu |
Schummy
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Username: Schummy
Post Number: 878
Registered: 09-2004
Posted From: 68.49.139.186
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 1:50 pm: | |
Sing Z ,
Ardham emo selavu ichuukuntaaraa |
Schummy
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Username: Schummy
Post Number: 877
Registered: 09-2004
Posted From: 68.49.139.186
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 1:49 pm: | |
ranga mama ,
oka bhalaheena kshnaallo prajalu blaheena padatam sahajam .
kaani pedhha manusulu POPE gaadu alaa maatlaadatam chaalaa thapu mamam. |
Spitfire
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Username: Spitfire
Post Number: 1521
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 68.49.139.186
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 1:48 pm: | |
CHalam Sodara:
"In fine, they live among Hindus as Hindus without causing any suspicion and it is, indeed, difficult to say how important this is especially in times of crisis."
Ee statement entha daaaaarunam Sodara -
Singh |
Sollu
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Username: Sollu
Post Number: 7697
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 144.160.130.16
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 1:47 pm: | |
ranga babai malli shifting gurinchi matadathavu...bad fella
its compeltely their opinion....food kosam amtam marithe adi mummatiki thappu ledu
kani religion main intention teleeni boku nayallu religion heads ayithe ilane edusuddi |
Ranga
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Username: Ranga
Post Number: 2400
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 65.208.22.26
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 1:45 pm: | |
Vinthe emundi Singh Z. Pani paata DongaLanzaa Kodukulandaroo Naxals lo elaa Cheruthunnaro, thinataaniki leni hindus andaroo 50Kg. rice bags kosam X Theerdham pucchukuntuntunnaaru.
Ika high class redlu, itlalian prime ministerlu, mother teresa la valla hinduthvaaniki jarige nashtam anthaa inthaa kaadu. |
Sollu
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Username: Sollu
Post Number: 7696
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 144.160.130.16
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 1:44 pm: | |
schummy babai allu ela kalisina naaku problem ledu
oka religion ni represent sesetodu vere religion ni kinchaparichelaga matadithe ekkado kaluddi boku dk gadu.......naaku sana mandi friends unnaru danilo kani eppudu topic lo similarities gurinchi matadukune vallame kani adi thakkuva idi thakkuva ani eppudu matadukoledu
LK gadu aadi S ni kosthe telusuddi badacow gadiki |
Spitfire
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Username: Spitfire
Post Number: 1520
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 68.49.139.186
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 1:42 pm: | |
"They say that he used to assert that the Christian cause in India could never have firm roots without the continuing dedication of a pious and zealous clergy native to India."
Singh |
Schummy
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Username: Schummy
Post Number: 876
Registered: 09-2004
Posted From: 68.49.139.186
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 1:42 pm: | |
Sollu mama ,
Kashmiri pandit family athalaa kuthalami ..prabhuvu familo klisi pondhi kadhaa..
Real indian Rahul = Kashmiri pandit + Parsi + christain + mangoli (something like this ) .
Indian flag laagaa .. ... |
Bhrigu
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Username: Bhrigu
Post Number: 5646
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 69.228.253.113
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 1:41 pm: | |
>> kaani ilaga his choice of words is very demeaning to our very existance
words demundi mama, actions were always obvious .. when he said 'there are a billion souls in India and china to be harvested' what did you think ? |
Spitfire
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Username: Spitfire
Post Number: 1519
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 68.49.139.186
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 1:40 pm: | |
Chalam Sodara:
I always thought there was an undercurrent - kaani ilaga his choice of words is very demeaning to our very existance -
Singh |
Prasanth
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Username: Prasanth
Post Number: 12596
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 203.199.213.130
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 1:39 pm: | |
indhulo kottemundi spit mama
correctga timeku naku link icchaavu....nenu septe appudu evaruu nammaledhu....
II mama \clipart{come here} |
Schummy
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Username: Schummy
Post Number: 875
Registered: 09-2004
Posted From: 68.49.139.186
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 1:39 pm: | |
Kaani kncham diplomatic gaa vuntaaru anukunna pope lu ante .
kaani intha neecham gaa pakka valla gurinchi maatlaadathaaru anukoledhu |
Sollu
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Username: Sollu
Post Number: 7694
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 144.160.130.16
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 1:39 pm: | |
vango manandi aadini, true religion ante ento sebutha aadiki |
Bhrigu
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Username: Bhrigu
Post Number: 5643
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 69.228.253.113
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 1:37 pm: | |
what was so shocking ? |
Spitfire
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Username: Spitfire
Post Number: 1518
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 68.49.139.186
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 1:36 pm: | |
Some exceprts
"Through his extraordinary perseverence, he converted hundreds of thousands of Hindus from the myths and vile superstitions of the Brahmans to the true religion" |
Spitfire
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Username: Spitfire
Post Number: 1517
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 68.49.139.186
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 1:34 pm: | |
This is a shocking aritcle the ILR found while going through the Vatican site - I was really perplexed by what I saw in the article - no hanky panky straight from the vatican.
The link
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/leo_xiii/encycli cals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_24061893_ad-extremas_ en.html
Singh |
