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Author Message Bhrigu Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Bhrigu Post Number: 7007 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.228.253.113 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 8:03 pm: spit mama, saw that guy's link. did u intend it as an example of a pakistani who got enlightened ? I couldnt get any links for any of his views ... Truecolours Vooriki Bewarse Username: Truecolours Post Number: 2616 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 12.153.145.6 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 6:41 pm: shrigo mama Truecolours Vooriki Bewarse Username: Truecolours Post Number: 2615 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 12.153.145.6 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 6:40 pm: Shrigo mama neeku email ichanu adhi chusukova plzzzz Shrigo Kurra Bewarse Username: Shrigo Post Number: 612 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 68.211.163.102 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 6:29 pm: sorry to disturb you all... Hanuman mama okasari call cheyavaa.. Spitfire Bewarse Username: Spitfire Post Number: 1757 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 68.49.139.186 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 6:29 pm: Jam SOdara: I got the idea - thanks for the correction though. >>Watch a movie A DAY IN OUR LIVES WITHOUT MEXICANS. Amazing statistics, though it suffers from poor narration. Will check it out - - BTW, read my previous post. Singh Jamadagni Bewarse Username: Jamadagni Post Number: 1753 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 69.248.82.180 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 6:27 pm: correction: Off the topic, U.S. gains more from them than it does from Indians. Spitfire Bewarse Username: Spitfire Post Number: 1755 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 68.49.139.186 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 6:08 pm: >>too many to name in the recent past .. Maybe the thinking minds acroos the border - are making some noise - as they smell a chance. I need to do a little more reading and talking to see it things have changed. For now Sohaib Bhai a very good frind and colleague - always talked bold - looked like the new generation but got religious and went back to teach - so his westernization was only temporal. Chalam sodara - I think this is what you envision - learn and go back to preach - but it could work both ways. Singh Jamadagni Bewarse Username: Jamadagni Post Number: 1752 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 69.248.82.180 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 6:06 pm: Singh maamaa, For time being, let us forget about the political equations here and think about WIIFUFI(what is it in for us from it). As long as they are paying without compromising on the core- objectives, I guess it is fine with me. Population perse is not a problem for us maamaa...as long as you can bring them up properly, I guess you can have as many as you want. NTR ki 13 mandhi...daanamma okkokkadiki konni kootlu icchaadu. Who complains? The same way, what's wrong if accomplished Pakisthanis settle down in India. I am yet to come across a country that went down because of immigrants. Off the topic, U.S. gains more from them than they do from Indians. You know why...it's because they are huge spenders unlike Indians, who live rest of their lives here with a conversion mentality. Fact. Watch a movie A DAY IN OUR LIVES WITHOUT MEXICANS. Amazing statistics, though it suffers from poor narration. U guys carry on. Bhrigu Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Bhrigu Post Number: 6993 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.228.253.113 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 6:03 pm: TFT, a bit of daily times, some ejaz haider maybe .. too many to name in the recent past .. Spitfire Bewarse Username: Spitfire Post Number: 1754 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 68.49.139.186 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 6:02 pm: >>sane headed articles from across the border = red{DAWN} ?? Bhrigu Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Bhrigu Post Number: 6990 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.228.253.113 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 5:55 pm: >> about letting foreign students into our country. I know how many foreigners come into our country to study every year but pakistan is different .. hence the concern ... >> you are playing the card of "identity politics". assuming you are speaking for pakistanis, it's not politics but a reality IMO. they might not own upto it but that's what comes across in many of the sane headed articles from across the border. btw, Nagas issue came out to show the kind of diversity we in India can have, willing. Hispanics in the US do offer diversity but US tolerates them cuz they aint killing any of the US kids, what happened to Cuba just because they stood on the opposite side ? Spitfire Bewarse Username: Spitfire Post Number: 1752 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 68.49.139.186 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 5:48 pm: Jam Sodara: I agree with your stand of "positive externality". But I tend to think that it is perceieved. For instance - let us delve into the your example - Hispanics in America - the majority of them come to the US on on legal or illegal - onw way tickets - none of them wishes to go back. Their major intent is to settle here - and I doubt if the majorith would want to send their kids to school. Atleast in VA/FL I have not seen that attitude. But the few who do go to school - are beyond that - as you said. On analogy - if Indians were to study in Pakistan or vice-versa - it would be different. I do not believe we are lucrative attraction as the US - in terms of social/ecomical/polical conditions. As CHalam said "The Dictator" is too clever to take the bait by our PM. Singh Jamadagni Bewarse Username: Jamadagni Post Number: 1750 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 69.248.82.180 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 5:47 pm: "deeper in their hearts I bet everyone of them wants to be an Indian". Endhi maamaa aaa statement?By commenting on their identity crisis, you are playing the card of "identity politics". Jamadagni Bewarse Username: Jamadagni Post Number: 1749 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 69.248.82.180 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 5:41 pm: Nagas antee...even Hispanics are totally new to the U.S. culture. But the schools here are still looking beyond them (for obvious reasons). That is why I said this is a positive externality, though the govt. might have taken this as a part of its leitmotif. Jamadagni Bewarse Username: Jamadagni Post Number: 1748 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 69.248.82.180 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 5:32 pm: Nee maamaa, When you said costs, I thought you were being apprehehsive about letting foreign students into our country. Hence, the analogy. Ibmast Pilla Bewarse Username: Ibmast Post Number: 127 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 81.158.247.92 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 3:25 pm: >>>>Nagas are more alien to a mainlander than a paki, IMO No wonder the north east is showing all signs of a 'kashmir in the making'. Plz_kissme Bewarse ke Bewarse! Username: Plz_kissme Post Number: 5638 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 164.107.186.56 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 3:07 pm: 50 emindi manmohan ki maaaro maaaro goli maro repu undo ledo teliyaduro Gaali Vooriki Bewarse Username: Gaali Post Number: 5546 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 199.26.230.102 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 3:03 pm: Pakistan lo vunde Pathan gaallaki ayithe India ante baane yishtam anukonta mamalu. They have been neglected by their govt. Bhrigu Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Bhrigu Post Number: 6977 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.228.253.113 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 2:56 pm: >> The Bangladeshis contempt for India was revelation - something I was totally unaware of a new aspect IMO - I had two very good bangla friends long back, people that studied with us and quite open and liberal - ofcourse from bloody rich families. An average pakistani abdul is quite amiable at a lot of times simply because they rue their condition and lack of freedom when compared to India, deeper in their hearts I bet everyone of them wants to be an Indian , their subconscious identity crisis is a joy to behold .. Anyways, looking at this issue as part of the CBMs, I think we are just going one mile too far Ibmast Pilla Bewarse Username: Ibmast Post Number: 124 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 81.158.247.92 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 2:45 pm: This is not going to go beyond the 'suggestion' stage. Mushy is too wily to go for this... There are a host of other cosmetic cbms that will have priority before something with far reaching consequences like this comes up...stuff like special visas to visit salim chishtis dargah, sikh shrines in pakistan etc are the only ones we will be seeing..nothing beyond that..manmohan was just trying to show that we are willing to go the extra mile... "he idea is when I wwnt to school I had great conversations with Pakistani students - they were suprisingly not opinionated" same with me...I was surprised to find the average Pakistani not as aggressively hostile towards India as the Bangladeshis and Sri lankans. Inspite of being religiously conditioned to hate India they have this very positive inclination towards our cinema,music,culture and this curiosity towards India manages to disguise their dislike to some extent. The average Bangladeshi and sri lankan on the other hand wears his India hatred on his sleeve. The Bangladeshis contempt for India was revelation - something I was totally unaware of Bhrigu Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Bhrigu Post Number: 6959 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.228.253.113 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 1:31 pm: >> where it will stand to lose I doubt it .. with the recent bonhomie about paki bhai bhai stuff ... and idiots like thackeray would raise the correct point in the wrong manner Bhrigu Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Bhrigu Post Number: 6958 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.228.253.113 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 1:30 pm: >> Remember we felt the same when some professors (forcefully) removed international students I dont see the analogy mama ... but this act is pure largesse from India, if it happens - one of those confidence building measures I suppose. and what exactly are we getting back ? a no-frills attitude for the Iran pipeline ? lessening of border tensions ? It pains me to see our country succumb to terrorist blackmail time and again But as with the positive spin earlier on in this thread, that could be the motive. the big brother rolling up the sleeves to clean the mess in the neighbouring slum Gaali Vooriki Bewarse Username: Gaali Post Number: 5543 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 199.26.230.102 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:59 pm: Yemo mamalu manam yentha empathize sesina sivvariki mana sethiki sippa migaladam khaayam. Bangladesh ki manchi chesaam laabham yenti? Soonyam. Yippudu vaalle thinna inti vaasalu lekkapeduthunnaru. Vito_corleone Pilla Bewarse Username: Vito_corleone Post Number: 67 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 202.141.43.24 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:58 pm: >>Nagas are more alien to a mainlander than a paki, IMO seconded by the Corleone family Jamadagni Bewarse Username: Jamadagni Post Number: 1747 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 69.248.82.180 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:58 pm: Nee maamaa, 'At what cost and what guarantee' I guess we have to empathize with Pakisthani students in this aspect. Remember we felt the same when some professors (forcefully) removed international students from some academic projects that had to use some classified information, post 9/11. Spitfire Bewarse Username: Spitfire Post Number: 1739 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 68.49.139.186 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:54 pm: Chalam Sodara: >>Mama, congress is much better than BJP in this matter,let us not bring political colors in here. I agree that the attitude is very generic. I did not particularly intend to put Congress in bad-light - infact I was referring to Panch-Sheel when I typed in Congress. I will not talk about political affiliations anymore - and also agree that COngress has been better in this regard than other national parties. >> at what cost and what guaranatee - That indeed is the real question. At what cost - we will only gain when it plays out - a guges diplomatic plus - in the international arena. At home it will be a total different story - (Infact - I dont even see it materializing at all even though the PMO is keen) - it will be brought to to national exposure - where it will stand to lose - unless it is carefully pre-arranged. >> at what guarantee - I dont have an answer right now - let me come up with it. Singh Bhrigu Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Bhrigu Post Number: 6955 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.106.57.29 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:44 pm: >> our governments( in particluar Congress) - want to be goody_two_shoes on the international platform mama, why single out congress again ? it was ABV that started the Lahore Bus route, he was the lead when kargil happened and he was the one that did not let us go all the way .. he was the one who did not attack pakis when the parliament was attacked ... Mama, congress is much better than BJP in this matter,let us not bring political colors in here. If the talk is about diversity for a paki student, I had hoped the same in one of my earlier posts but at what cost and what guarantee Spitfire Bewarse Username: Spitfire Post Number: 1737 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 68.49.139.186 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:37 pm: Jam Sodara: >>Diversity untee aaa exposureeee veeru. I am leaning towards the same assumption. I think diversity will bring in a change in one's train of thought - unless it is unwilling to accept any education except from the madrassas - ( see my example of foreign students in a previous post) To that effect, their willingness to come to a foreign land - that too enemy soil - for the pursuit of education - compunded by the fact that the might be willing to stand and compete in the general category with the hosts - IMO shows that they are indeed willing/seeking to change. Emotions apart - and trying to neglect the mental influence of the Pakistani hatred - that inherit from older genrations - we could see a positive side to this dimplomatic decision. Having said that I would oppose the following A) If reservation or special interest of any kind is bestowed. B) If it is ill-advised dimplomacy or political sycophancy - our governments( in particluar Congress) - want to be goody_two_shoes on the international platform - in the past we have had decisions/support come our way - becuase we are are silent and peaceful even in times of adversity - and always trying to sustain the agressor( in this case Pakistan) not with retaliation but with sops like these. Singh Bhrigu Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Bhrigu Post Number: 6952 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.106.57.29 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:30 pm: >> Diversity untee aaa exposureeee veeru. I am quite positive diversity is not the issue mama .. as I said, there has been enough diversity already .. and Nagas are more alien to a mainlander than a paki, IMO. Anyways, not much fuel in here. Jamadagni Bewarse Username: Jamadagni Post Number: 1746 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 69.248.82.180 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:21 pm: Nee maama, "Students from different parts of India"...unfortunately, aaa survey cheesee vallu alaa anukooru kadha. May be it was part of his lietmotif but I think it as a positive externality. Diversity untee aaa exposureeee veeru. Bhrigu Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Bhrigu Post Number: 6949 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.106.57.29 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:18 pm: Next question: why only IITs and IIMs ? I am sure we have many colleges that are much better than any of those that Pakis have. tif, we can downplay pakis but we cannot ignore them - not yet. Decent Bewarse Username: Decent Post Number: 1620 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 63.163.61.3 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:15 pm: The very thought of PAK LKs competing in the IIT-JEE exams gives me goosebumps. Manmohan Singh, Please don't lose the respect we have for you by making such rash and stupid decisions!!! Decent Bewarse Username: Decent Post Number: 1619 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 63.163.61.3 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:12 pm: Time is ripe for the best Sardarji joke, besides this one. IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tifosi Vooriki Bewarse Username: Tifosi Post Number: 3481 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 208.37.228.208 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:04 pm: trivialize kashmir....we have bigger fish to fry...let them study if they have the balls to secure a seat BUT in a level playing field and they HAVE TO pay a hefty 'out of state' tuition fee India should start thinking big and start ignoring Pakistan. If and when the pakis want to make a move on the border let there be a kargil 2, 3 ....until the LOC becomes the border. conventionally they know its a losing battle at the outset. Bhrigu Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Bhrigu Post Number: 6947 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.106.57.29 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 11:52 am: One can compare this to the generous medical service being done by several hospitals to Pakistani patients. As we read more news, it appears that they are being subsidised almost 100% as a friendly gesture, something none of the Indian patients normally get. Again misplaced Indian sentimentality .. but this being mostly by private hospitals, one cannot complain much. Jammu mama, I do not think diversity is a factor. As I mentioned below, there are enough students from the middle east, bangladesh, mauritius, lanka and even some ABCDs at times. Students from different parts of India as such is enough diversity actually , be it manipal or some college in Bidar. Gaali Vooriki Bewarse Username: Gaali Post Number: 5530 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 199.26.230.102 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 11:47 am: Manmohan Singh mama maapai kanukarinchu plzzz. Yilaanti decisions aavesam lo teesukomaaku. Jamadagni Bewarse Username: Jamadagni Post Number: 1745 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 69.248.82.180 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 11:46 am: First it's partly a good move by Man Mohan. I am saying partly because our leading universities are seriously found wanting in the diversity factor. But these guys should be made to pay to study here..for that matter, Governments should stop subsidising the higher education especially the IIT's and IIM'S. British government has learnt it the hard way and hope we do. * Despite being the home to the best brains in the world, IIM's are no where in the top 100 business schools in any famous surveys. Till CBS aired a program in 60 mts, no one here how competitive it is to get into IIT's. Andhukani, this I feel is the first step in pushing diversity there! Spitfire Bewarse Username: Spitfire Post Number: 1736 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 68.49.139.186 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 11:36 am: Chalam Sodara - Koddiga time padutundi - will join a little later Singh Bhrigu Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Bhrigu Post Number: 6946 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.106.57.29 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 11:34 am: *bump* for opinions Redwills Pilla Bewarse Username: Redwills Post Number: 175 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 129.107.37.148 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 3:20 am: NEE YENKAMMA SARDAR GAADIKI MIND DOBBEDENDI......AALLAKI ASSLA ADI UNDADUGAA Racchamass Bewarse Username: Racchamass Post Number: 2413 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 65.185.183.103 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 1:50 am: eedemma eediki emayyindhi sudden gaa mind gani dobbinda sardarji gadiki.entha mandi entha kastapadithe vacche instituitions chas ilanti erri •••• alochanalu enduku chestaro ardham piccha nayallaki sastunnam ellatho Bhrigu Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Bhrigu Post Number: 6945 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.228.253.113 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 1:02 am: peechu mama, ee petitions etc stunts mama ... but one can try .. anyways, ciao all ... gotta go .. later, spit mama Bhrigu Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Bhrigu Post Number: 6944 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.228.253.113 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 1:00 am: >> but if it through PMO via 10 Janpath or 7 RaceCOurse or 10 Downing Street quite possible mama, but India has been safe and sound this far because of the Babus more than the Netas. So if this has been offered then there IS somethign to it or the old sardar got taken in by Mushy rat. My weird wish is a long term idea of getting the lost brothers back into the fold - kind of a starting step to 'akhand bharat' that our dear old ABV dreamt of . Bhrigu Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Bhrigu Post Number: 6943 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.228.253.113 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:56 am: >> you can see an very realaizable change in the social and political demeamour of Pervez not to kill your optimism but I wouldnt read too much into this .. this is a temporary state of cuddly love with India, till they get the goods from the US - they gotta be a soft state .. come september and as winter starts in kashmir, I think we will see more action .. >> Natwar with is enormous experience is no match for them who's 'them' here ? If it's congees, then I think they are in some ways better than NDA, the only downside being the communist control but that's manageable. All great decisions w.r.t Indian foreign affairs have been taken by cong PMs .. not that others had many chances Spitfire Bewarse Username: Spitfire Post Number: 1732 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 68.49.139.186 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:55 am: I apologize for teh digression - sincerely - . >> beyond what I mentioned, what could be the idea of GoI ? is it foolish sentimentalism ? that too with pak ? or something deeper .. I defintely think it is deeper if it comes strictly from the PMO - but if it through PMO via 10 Janpath or 7 RaceCOurse or 10 Downing Street - I think it some old person with a boorish idea - trying to impoise on of his fancy ideas on goodwill-negotiating. Singh Spitfire Bewarse Username: Spitfire Post Number: 1731 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 68.49.139.186 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:52 am: >>a paki once is a paki forever .. great that manmohan is trying to change that .. I think the stand of ManMohan has been very good so far - you can see an very realaizable change in the social and political demeamour of Pervez when he came to India last - the arrogance in Agra has gone to the shed. I would the talks getsomwhere - but my dream team is not entirely in COngress. I would like an agressive statesman - to compund the effect of Manmohan strategy - Natwar with is enormous experience is no match for them - what they need is one of their kind - one they can relate to - like say god-forbid Rahul?. I am willing to support COngress for the first time in my life if he can come out of the Nehruvian clout - but can he ? Earlier a statesman like PV wcould have done it but did not - but they should have used his services at soem point - instead of slapping a plethora of forgettable cases on him. Bhrigu Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Bhrigu Post Number: 6942 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.228.253.113 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:48 am: Anyways, I can go on about pakis forever but coming to the issue : - beyond what I mentioned, what could be the idea of GoI ? is it foolish sentimentalism ? that too with pak ? or something deeper .. Bhrigu Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Bhrigu Post Number: 6940 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.228.253.113 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:43 am: >> menaing they belive that we are full of shit - I believe so .. notice the number of articles in their newspapers in the recent past ... TRUTH is finally hitting them hard that they have been pissing at the wind for so long and been too bloody numb to know the diff between piss and rain .. All that remains is the nuke ability of the pakis and the day US manages to take that out, the final nail would have been laid .. the only problem being a paki once is a paki forever .. great that manmohan is trying to change that .. mama, an average paki is usually very nice and I have met and befriended quite a few of them but when they praise dictatorship over democracy and when they display their abysmal knowledge of India, their MOTHER country, it pisses me to no end .. and this from so-called 'educated' pakis .. Spitfire Bewarse Username: Spitfire Post Number: 1730 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 68.49.139.186 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:39 am: >>past two generations have been inculcated with India hatred I thing I fail to understand always is - does "education" really chage their hearts. The idea is when I wwnt to school I had great conversations with Pakistani students - they were suprisingly not opinionated ( probably opiated - j/k) - My question is is that because they have had a change in heart after they understand that they had been in the loo for the last couple of decades - or are they acting smart - menaing they belive that we are full of shit - but have learnt to be politely and politically correct on the outset. Singh Bhrigu Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Bhrigu Post Number: 6939 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.228.253.113 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:38 am: For all that we know, could just be a PR exercise by some smart babu to slap musharraf ... pakistanis prefer HONOR & DIGNITY to anything, notice this in every interview of musharraf and anyone. such an offer would simply mean that pakistan has nothing comparable to the best we have and they will have to gulp that down harder .. assholes .. Bhrigu Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Bhrigu Post Number: 6938 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.228.253.113 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:36 am: >> not learn and bring back this is what we are seeing today .. but Islam of yore did pick up a lot of things from many places, most importantly the idea of zero from the Hindus and spread it far and wide .. they aint as immune to new thoughts as we think , a lot depends on how the thought is put and who puts it Infinity Pilla Bewarse Username: Infinity Post Number: 417 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:33 am: We should open up a petition online expressing our concerns. stupid policy.. already india is lacking of resources and we getting fcuked up in some stupid US univs for the heck of it. so why create more trouble? Bhrigu Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Bhrigu Post Number: 6937 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.228.253.113 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:33 am: >> characteristic teachings of the religion they follow. not religion mama, but what they are taught in that shithole called pakistan .. I really dont know if we should pity the 130 million who are slaves to the 30 or so families, mostlu from the rich punjab area - families that control pakistan's destiny even today. Musharraf is a bloody tool in their hands .. anways, off topic I think the hope IS to see them go back to Pakistan and spread India's good name but the extent to which the past two generations have been inculcated with India hatred .. a taall order .. wonder what's cooking in Indian babu's heads Spitfire Bewarse Username: Spitfire Post Number: 1729 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 68.49.139.186 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:32 am: Dei Sodara: prajaseva (at) yahoo (dot) com - Shoot Singh Deithadi Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Deithadi Post Number: 2486 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 68.249.103.148 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:31 am: /* Spitfire mama, U give your email, I give you one request */ Bhrigu Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Bhrigu Post Number: 6936 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.228.253.113 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:30 am: ofcourse ET vaadiki thelisi chachindi kooda thakkuva laagane undi >> This is a major reversal in policy as foreign students haven't been allowed to study at the IITs so far. that stmnt is rubbish Kingchoudary Bewarse ke Bewarse! Username: Kingchoudary Post Number: 12394 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 203.199.220.66 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:30 am: 6'th class nunchi prepare avuthunnaru pillalu, papam nidraharaalu manesi chaduvukune veella aim ki veedu thutlu podusthunnadu .... Spitfire Bewarse Username: Spitfire Post Number: 1728 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 68.49.139.186 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:29 am: CHalam Sodara: >>hostels and then hopefully going back and spreading the same. They are trained to go outward and spread knowlede - by defintion - not learn and bring back - it is agains thier fundamental principples. I am not trying to be harsh here - but trying to look at your statement from the perspective of the characteristic teachings of the religion they follow. Singh Kingchoudary Bewarse ke Bewarse! Username: Kingchoudary Post Number: 12393 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 203.199.220.66 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:27 am: yee boku gaadu manchi peru thechukovalani mana buddola ki droham chesthunnadu. Bhrigu Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Bhrigu Post Number: 6935 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.228.253.113 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:27 am: thinking about it positively now - generations of pakistani kids are brought up on an alien concept of India, one in which they are taught to hate India and that India is made of people who eat rats, worship stones in dark places and such bull shit. This move would help kids who are at an impressionable age ( 17-18 ) to understand the real India and her diversity by living in the hostels and then hopefully going back and spreading the same. BUT, BUT that would be a handful of folks and not too many who would be doing that, mostly rich pakistanis from Lahore and Karachi who spend their monthly vacations in London and Paris. How the f_uck would helping them help India in any way ? Spitfire Bewarse Username: Spitfire Post Number: 1727 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 68.49.139.186 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:27 am: Total Idea: Not good. Very Venturesome If it it to happen - >>Pakistani students would have to appear for the IIT-JEE (IIT's joint entrance exam) and the CAT (IIM's common admission test ). = Tolerable >>overnment will consider devising a separate exam for the Pakistani candidates in the event that they can not appear for the IIT-JEE or CAT. - Foolhardy Singh Gochi Bewarse ke Bewarse! Username: Gochi Post Number: 7278 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 66.142.100.46 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:25 am: mari manaki karachi,lahore collegeslo seat isthaaraa Bhrigu Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Bhrigu Post Number: 6934 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.228.253.113 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:24 am: deenamma thousands of 'Indian' kids fight every year so hard to get in - and he wants to open it up to these fuckers ?? mostly separate exam ante yedo simple de untadi and 'Indian' taxpayers are going to pay for their education ?? what the f_uck ? ofcourse, IITs I hear have earlier taken people from other countries like Mauritius, Bangladesh and Srilanka - and also charged them very high fees. but ee system elaa untado choodali Gochi Bewarse ke Bewarse! Username: Gochi Post Number: 7277 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 66.142.100.46 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:23 am: sardarki mind denks anukuntaa... Infinity Pilla Bewarse Username: Infinity Post Number: 416 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:21 am: same thoughts when i saw this article.. no entry in to the temples of modern india. fcuk them Bhrigu Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Bhrigu Post Number: 6933 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.228.253.113 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:19 am: endi ee pichi proposals ? http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/10 82795.cms NEW DELHI: In the name of peace and neighbourly ties, your child may have to compete harder for that elusive seat at the Indian Institute of Technology (IIT) or the Indian Institute of Management (IIM). For, Pakistani students will soon be able to study at the IITs and IIMs. This is a major reversal in policy as foreign students haven't been allowed to study at the IITs so far. In fact, despite being among institutes with global recognition, the IITs and IIMs have never been part of any of the education roadshows organised by either EdCIL (Education Consultants India) or UGC-FICCI. The idea being that as state-run institutions, funded substantially by the government, Indian students should have the first dibs on IIT/IIM education . The suggestion was made by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh during his meetings with Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf. Sources say the Prime Minister's Office (PMO) is keen on seeing the proposal go through. Pakistani students would have to appear for the IIT-JEE (IIT's joint entrance exam) and the CAT (IIM's common admission test ). A measure of the interest in opening up the country's premier engineering and management institutions is the fact that the government will consider devising a separate exam for the Pakistani candidates in the event that they can not appear for the IIT-JEE or CAT.