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Thedarkknight
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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2022 - 3:13 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


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Kumba Karna ni villain gaa chuparu movies lo, stories lo, but Vibheeshanudikanna goppa vaadu, manchi rajaneethi parudu....




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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2022 - 9:26 am:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Kumba Karna ni villain gaa chuparu movies lo, stories lo, but Vibheeshanudikanna goppa vaadu, manchi rajaneethi parudu....

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2022 - 5:16 am:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


Musicfan:

Because, thats how they used to get first hand feedback on their ruling and correct themselves.




I don't think you got the gist of my post.

Maru vesham lo vacchi governance gurinchi check cheyatam always perfect and good.

But they shouldn't reveal the identity to common public ( Which makes them feel uncomfortable & people wouldn't show their true nature ) & neither should they threaten/blackmail ( directly or indirectly ) the common public saying that "I am a king, It's my Order, You should give all your money & assets to me or else you will face consequences".
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Posted on Sunday, May 08, 2022 - 2:17 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


Thedarkknight:

Such kings are considered bad thieves & goons.




This is incorrect conclusion.

Because, thats how they used to get first hand feedback on their ruling and correct themselves.

Some kings used to go by themselves some used to appoint people to go in disguise to know actual feedback

This was common practice during those days.
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Posted on Friday, May 06, 2022 - 4:50 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


Musicfan:

Evils ki not that Kumbhakarna is that bad, but he would get manipulated by Ravana, so he shouldnt get what he asks for. So he was manipulated by Saraswati on request of Indra.

Imagine if he got what he wanted and Ravana being aside of him? How evil that would be?




Maa thatha Chinnappudu Rendu Vishayalu Cheppadu ( Don't worry about singular, He's very close to me ) puranalu cheppe tappudu....


1. Donga Raju concept : A King who comes in disguise among public to check on governance, should never reveal his identity, should never threaten/blackmail people saying that he's actually a King. Such kings are considered bad thieves & goons.

2. Manaki Verey vadi valla vacchindi manatho patu eppatiki vundadu :

In most of the puranas, Kings & Rishi's do tapasya to ask for boons. And most of them are greedy and want things for free. Lots of times Lords ask you to wish for something to know about your strong desire ( they want to know how bad/good their desire is for them & for general public ).

You should earn every single thing in your life and use what you have gotten through hereditary and should never ask for a boon or anything for free. If someone persists you should just ask them to not take away what you already have (Including Health => Physical & Mind ). Usually lots of folks including some Devas take away things from you and not give much for free.

Lots of Kings & Rishis perished to greedy wishes ( that they wanted from Devas ), out of their strong desire.
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Posted on Friday, May 06, 2022 - 12:43 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


Thedarkknight:

Kumbhakarna was a devotee of Lord Brahma ( God of Creation ) and asked for a boon.




Evils ki not that Kumbhakarna is that bad, but he would get manipulated by Ravana, so he shouldnt get what he asks for. So he was manipulated by Saraswati on request of Indra.

Imagine if he got what he wanted and Ravana being aside of him? How evil that would be?
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Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2022 - 2:13 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


Musicfan:

he is Rakshasha, thats why he was denied Indra chair, and got manipulated.




Kumbhakarna was a devotee of Lord Brahma ( God of Creation ) and asked for a boon.

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Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2022 - 1:53 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


Musicfan:


it wont work that way. Yudhistira was elder to all, so he would get the heir. It doesn't matter who is at the throne that time. When there are multiple brothers.

That is the reason gandhari wanted to break the womb to give birth early to her sons.




This is news to me.

Nobody knows the Sons & Daughters of Prince Edward & Prince Andrew. Do they have any children elder to Prince William ?

Prince Charles will pass on the lineage to William as per everybody that we know.

Anyways, the point is

In dwapara yuga, the war was between cousins of the same Race ( Palolla Godava ).

In thretha yuga, the war was between "Daiva Like Manava" & Rakshasa, the evil Kumba Karna & ravana.

Kumba Karna is one of the very Few bayanak Rakshasas that we know from Hindu Mythology.
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Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2022 - 1:31 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


Thedarkknight:

All the stories that I read & heard portrayed Kumba Karna as Rakshasa.




he is Rakshasha, thats why he was denied Indra chair, and got manipulated. Same as Vibheeshana, But they are not that bad as Ravana.
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Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2022 - 1:30 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


Thedarkknight:

They were just cousin's of Pandava's, and were greedy & unethical when compared to Pandava's.




it wont work that way. Yudhistira was elder to all, so he would get the heir. It doesn't matter who is at the throne that time. When there are multiple brothers.

That is the reason gandhari wanted to break the womb to give birth early to her sons.
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Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2022 - 1:05 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


Musicfan:




All the stories that I read & heard portrayed Kumba Karna as Rakshasa.

https://telugu.boldsky.com/spirituality/the-story-kumbhakarna/articlecontent-pf3 8393-009896.html
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Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2022 - 12:50 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


Musicfan:

But based on kingdom, dhritarashtra's sons became legal heirs and were called kauravas.




That's exactly what I am saying. Kaurava's are not evil. They were just cousin's of Pandava's, and were greedy & unethical when compared to Pandava's.

They got major share based on the principles of purana's and dynasty ( pedda koduku ).

Prince William will be the legal heir and not prince Harry.

Prince Charles will be the legal heir and not prince Edward & Prince Andrew.

Shakuni was the mastermind of the Kurukshethra war, Where in he took the revenge on Kaurava's by defeating pandava's into hibernation from Kingdom. Extreme grudge against Kaurava's.

Had pandava's won dice game, they would have spared kauravas with few simple punishments & dethroning from dynasty. And they would even have gotten some of the kingdom after returning from Hibernation.
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Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2022 - 11:19 am:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


Thedarkknight:

Kumba karna kuda similar aa ? Saraswathi chetha varalu adiginchukunnada ? Aa varalu enti ?




Infact Kumbhakarna was much better person than Ravana. Kumbhakarna too adviced Ravana to give away Seeta back to Rama. He understood the strength of Rama. He knew before hand that he would get killed in hands or Rama/Lakshmana. But his advices were not listened by Ravana.

Regarding the boons, he did tapassu to get the throne of Indra but upon Indra's request Saraswati makes him to say Nidrasana..(Instead of Indrasana ). So he would sleep 24x7, 365 days.

But Kumbhakarna was most powerful warrior than Ravana so realizing that Ravana would lose his brother on all his fights, Ravana does another penances and gets it reduced to 6 months.
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Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2022 - 11:13 am:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


Thedarkknight:

Shakuni Kauravula chetha avamanimpabadi, aa avamanam manasulo pettukoni, Joodam dwara Godava petti aggi rajesthadu...And it will turn into a war.




Shakuni was strategist of the war, not the creator of the war by himself.

Of course he had a revenge story which has various versions. His family was put in prison and were given limited food. his family knows that Shakuni was super intelligent, give all their food to Shakuni so that he can survive and take revenge on Kaurava dynasty. It was said that his dice were made from the bones of his father thats why they listen to him to win any game.

Knowing this he trapped Dharmaraja to get into the dice game and made Duryodhana win but thats what he did
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Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2022 - 11:06 am:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


Fanno1:

mastaroo. both pandavas and kauravas are cousins why kauravas only called Kauravas? both of them are kuru clan kada?




Good question Fanno1 saar.

You are right both should be called kauravas as they are Kuru clan. But they were differentiated due to Dhritarashtra being king, their sons got the clan where as Pandu not being king, his sons were called by his name, the pandavas

Inkaa konchem complicated enti ante, Kuru clan ended theoretically with Bheeshma being brahmachary and the others didnt have any clan.

But based on kingdom, dhritarashtra's sons became legal heirs and were called kauravas.
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Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2022 - 6:58 am:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


Musicfan:




mastaroo. both pandavas and kauravas are cousins why kauravas only called Kauravas? both of them are kuru clan kada?
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Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2022 - 6:15 am:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


Musicfan:

he was on penance for boons but he asks something else due to saraswati making him ask wrong things.




Tesla laga, Gary Kasparov laga IQ lo ( Intelligence Quotient ) naa antha thopu undakudadu Ani varalu adigada, Saraswathi chetha ?

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Gary Kasparov formed a separate chess league as he was being dominated by others and wanted to latch onto the title of highest iq. Bavilo kappa annamata, thelivilo ayanantha thopu evadu ledu ane feeling.

Kumba karna kuda similar aa ? Saraswathi chetha varalu adiginchukunnada ? Aa varalu enti ?
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Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2022 - 6:01 am:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


Musicfan:



Musicfan:

No Saar, Duryodhana would never have given the kingdom share to pandavas. Shakuni only did few things to take it to next level or prolong it.




Idi koncham different ga undi. Naku chinnappudu Maa thatha cheppindi different.

Shakuni Kauravula chetha avamanimpabadi, aa avamanam manasulo pettukoni, Joodam dwara Godava petti aggi rajesthadu...And it will turn into a war.

Any reference for what you are saying ?
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Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2022 - 8:19 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


Thedarkknight:

The fight was induced by Shakuni, unless & otherwise they would have ruled along with the Pandavas.




No Saar, Duryodhana would never have given the kingdom share to pandavas. Shakuni only did few things to take it to next level or prolong it.

Duryodhana was always adamant to not to give Pandavas more than 5 villages and retain all the rest to himself.

His entire thoughts were evil.
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Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2022 - 8:16 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


Thedarkknight:

In Threta Yuga, Ravana was a great devotee of Lord Shiva and he never touches Seeta without her liking ( no raping ). He ruled Lanka to the liking of it's people.




He didnt do anything to Seeta because of his curse (sapam) that he gets killed if he meets a woman without her approval. lekapote eppudo edainaa chesevadu.

He is evil no matter what.

Vibheeshana is not portrayed as good, he was good and was always suggesting good things to Ravana, but Ravana never listened.

Kumbhakarna again was cursed or we can say he was on penance for boons but he asks something else due to saraswati making him ask wrong things.

He was not as evil as Ravana. No one can beat Ravana.
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Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2022 - 4:54 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

In Kaliyuga,

Kumba Karna Character reminds me of most evil fighter/killer "Kahl Drogo" and Viresys the Ravana who wants his Kingdom back.


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Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2022 - 4:39 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

As we all know, In Dwapara Yuga, Kauravas were defeated Kingdom & Cousins of Pandavas. The fight was induced by Shakuni, unless & otherwise they would have ruled along with the Pandavas.

In Threta Yuga, Ravana was a great devotee of Lord Shiva and he never touches Seeta without her liking ( no raping ). He ruled Lanka to the liking of it's people.

And Vibheeshana as we know is portrayed as good Character on bad side.

But what about Kumba Karna ? The most evil
"Rakshas" ever who sleeps for 6 months , and eats people on his way and rapes women on the road as he pleases and wishes, And was tolerated by King Ravana just because "Kumba Karna" wins the war with barbarism & Huge body.

What do you guys think ? Who's the most evil Character in Hindu Mythology ?
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