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Tingari_xx
Bewarse Legend
Username: Tingari_xx
Post Number: 51994
Registered: 08-2006
Posted From: 76.109.163.196
| | Posted on Friday, March 24, 2017 - 7:47 am: |
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Esperanza
Celebrity Bewarse
Username: Esperanza
Post Number: 27201
Registered: 08-2004
Posted From: 88.114.250.31
| | Posted on Friday, March 24, 2017 - 4:10 am: |
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tammareddy konni points baga adigadu...they are very much valid anipinchayi naku.
indian lo filmy music ki ee rights thokka tolu unda kudadu...idemanna own production of the music director aithe ankovachu....already own ga produce chesi hit cheskonte appudu music director ki life long untai rights but alakakunda producer daggara film situations telsukoni atani daggara munde anni dabbulu tisesukunnaka life long rights anedi not fair at all.
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Kishorek111
Kurra Bewarse
Username: Kishorek111
Post Number: 1819
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 73.71.157.48
| | Posted on Friday, March 24, 2017 - 1:13 am: |
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//Mundu gaane producer daggara dabbu dobbesina music director ki life long rights yenti? anedi ninna thamma reddy point. 'Independent music' compose chesukonte appudu mi ishtam. "anthe gaani memu room ichi, maa daggara thini, thaagi, memu story param gaa ichina situation ki song compose chesi, repu adi HIT ayithe d life long right kaavaali andam fair kaadu anedi Thammareddy and others openion. Chattam lo vunna lopaalanu yethi chupadam thappu kaadu. Adi ippude first tiem kaadu chesthondi.//
there is a point here. Films song rights Producer ke vundali... lekapothe repu story writer, director kuda IP rights antu vastaru |
Musicfan
Bewarse Legend
Username: Musicfan
Post Number: 61560
Registered: 05-2004
Posted From: 63.169.138.2
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2017 - 2:53 pm: |
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Kalikaalam:singer daggara creativity lekapothe , songs anni kudaa music director ye paadukovachugaa??
KK saru there are 3 issues here.
1. There is an existing law, SPB is ignoring it, IR is trying to take advantage of it..
Tell me who is right who is wrong in this context..
2. IPRS is cheating involved parties even though its collecting money from everyone. IR is fighting against it with rest of singing troupes.
Tell me whether IR is doing anything wrong here.
3. Now Law is not correct, it needs to be modified.
Parliament has created this copy right act for Intellectual property.
Singers, musicians, actors, art director all wont contribute in creating anything. Where as Music director is and lyricist is.. Producer, Director, Story writer are contributing to the situation and Producer is paying, but the law doesnt prevent to hold the IP with Music director as he is creating something with thought and Lyricist is creating a lyric with his creativity. So they made this law adding only these two.
Right now, music directors are singing and everyone is singing, so whats the big deal. They are not creating anything by themselves.
IP is for something that is created, Not implementing that is already created. Hope you get the difference
if this needs to be changed, then Parliament has to take up and change, But I dont think that will happen at all.
So people should follow the current legal law until something changes.
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Kalikaalam
Kurra Bewarse
Username: Kalikaalam
Post Number: 2582
Registered: 04-2015
Posted From: 68.93.142.53
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2017 - 2:42 pm: |
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Musicfan:producer varaku agite vake kadaa, he added everyone in the list..
Actually, that is a valid point. producer daggara dabbulu thisukokunda music chesthe, appudu andaru samaanam gaa panchukovaali. Kaani, cinema ki vachina profits/losses tho sambhandam lekundaa dabbulu mundu gaane thisukonnaakaa, adi producer sontham avvaali adi ethical gaa chusthe. "Kaadu, maa creativity maadi anukonte, mari singers, orchestra vallu andaru lekkaloki vashtaaru kadaa?' anedi valla point.
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.” —Richard Feynman
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Kalikaalam
Kurra Bewarse
Username: Kalikaalam
Post Number: 2581
Registered: 04-2015
Posted From: 68.93.142.53
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2017 - 2:39 pm: |
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Musicfan:what creativity job singers are doing in this whole scenario??
singer daggara creativity lekapothe , songs anni kudaa music director ye paadukovachugaa?? singer ni yenduyku pilusthunnaadu?
Mundu gaane producer daggara dabbu dobbesina music director ki life long rights yenti? anedi ninna thamma reddy point. 'Independent music' compose chesukonte appudu mi ishtam. "anthe gaani memu room ichi, maa daggara thini, thaagi, memu story param gaa ichina situation ki song compose chesi, repu adi HIT ayithe d life long right kaavaali andam fair kaadu anedi Thammareddy and others openion. Chattam lo vunna lopaalanu yethi chupadam thappu kaadu. Adi ippude first tiem kaadu chesthondi.
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.” —Richard Feynman
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Musicfan
Bewarse Legend
Username: Musicfan
Post Number: 61559
Registered: 05-2004
Posted From: 63.169.138.2
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2017 - 2:31 pm: |
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Kalikaalam:Law ante ademi sthiram gaa vundau.Repu singers andaru vathidi thesthe, vaalla ni kuda ainclude cheyyochu.
Adi parliament lo law pass avvali, what creativity job singers are doing in this whole scenario??
But ippatiki sthiram gaa unna law gurinchi teliyali and patinchali kadaa, who are in the leadership position??
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Kalikaalam
Kurra Bewarse
Username: Kalikaalam
Post Number: 2579
Registered: 04-2015
Posted From: 68.93.142.53
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2017 - 2:27 pm: |
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Law ante ademi sthiram gaa vundau.Repu singers andaru vathidi thesthe, vaalla ni kuda ainclude cheyyochu.
Musicfan:Q: What will happen next.
A: The awareness that Indian music directors should get the royalty has caught everyone's attention. Thanks to SPB. Now, music directors will get money at-least. Probably IPRS will be taken over by some other society or Government will intervene to form a different society.
Yeppati nuncho IPRS mida allegations vunnaayi. Repu yenti anedi eyvadi ki thelusthundi? Kaani Music directors vaallu kurchonna komma nu vaalle narukkontunnaaru mithi mirina egoism tho. May change swill happen and everybody will try to get their share and will become a big mess..
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.” —Richard Feynman
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Musicfan
Bewarse Legend
Username: Musicfan
Post Number: 61558
Registered: 05-2004
Posted From: 63.169.138.2
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2017 - 2:26 pm: |
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Kalikaalam:how the producer got sidelined in the whole episode
producer varaku agite vake kadaa, he added everyone in the list..
Creativity ki implementors ki tedaa undi gaa,
Also when producer sold audio rights where he will be in picture??
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Musicfan
Bewarse Legend
Username: Musicfan
Post Number: 61557
Registered: 05-2004
Posted From: 63.169.138.2
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2017 - 2:24 pm: |
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Kalikaalam:adenti Ninna item gaadu ayina Thamma Reddy statement ki yi roju validity?
aadiki basic gaa copy right antene telvadu anna feel teppinchaadu, the way he asked questions to the legal expert there, andukane thread padindi,
IPRS vallu visigistunnaru annadu, that is different topic..
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Kalikaalam
Kurra Bewarse
Username: Kalikaalam
Post Number: 2578
Registered: 04-2015
Posted From: 68.93.142.53
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2017 - 2:22 pm: |
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Musicfan: Did IR sent notice to SPB?
A: No. IR's legal counsel in USA, sent notice to organizers. Since SPB's son was one of the organizer, he took it to himself.
actually, the legal notices went to SPB and Chitra with their names along with the organizers. A pure lie in this interview and blaming SPB . Yaak ..thu..
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.” —Richard Feynman
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Kalikaalam
Kurra Bewarse
Username: Kalikaalam
Post Number: 2577
Registered: 04-2015
Posted From: 68.93.142.53
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2017 - 2:16 pm: |
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Thamma Reddy knows what he is talkign about.He was very clear in the discussion"This is what I think in the law, but that is not fair.We can not even change now. so, no use of discussing it". He expressed his feelings/openion about how the producer got sidelined in the whole episode. As everybody got their opinions, he got one. nothing is wrong with it.
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.” —Richard Feynman
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Kalikaalam
Kurra Bewarse
Username: Kalikaalam
Post Number: 2576
Registered: 04-2015
Posted From: 68.93.142.53
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2017 - 2:12 pm: |
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Musicfan:Ninna Tammareddy kooda whats happening to rest of the money that IPRS is collecting ani adigadu..
Musicfan:eedu inta item ani naaku ippati varaku teliyadu,
adenti Ninna item gaadu ayina Thamma Reddy statement ki yi roju validity?
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.” —Richard Feynman
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Tingari_xx
Bewarse Legend
Username: Tingari_xx
Post Number: 51990
Registered: 08-2006
Posted From: 76.109.163.196
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2017 - 2:03 pm: |
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Musicfan:If its God's decision I will accept with utmost humility :-) :-) :-)
spb ni imitate sestunnara? wait for spb legal team to send copyright notice |
Musicfan
Bewarse Legend
Username: Musicfan
Post Number: 61556
Registered: 05-2004
Posted From: 63.169.138.2
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2017 - 1:46 pm: |
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Tingari_xx:mee next ban ki muhurtam pedtunna.
If its God's decision I will accept with utmost humility 
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Tingari_xx
Bewarse Legend
Username: Tingari_xx
Post Number: 51989
Registered: 08-2006
Posted From: 76.109.163.196
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2017 - 1:29 pm: |
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Musicfan:
mee next ban ki muhurtam pedtunna. old db server ki last ban avutaara leka new db server ki first ban aithaara? |
Musicfan
Bewarse Legend
Username: Musicfan
Post Number: 61554
Registered: 05-2004
Posted From: 63.169.138.2
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2017 - 1:18 pm: |
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Tingari_xx:music rao gorni inko sari ban seyalsina time vachindi.
Tingesh ittanti leni poni ideas ivvakandi,, chesina chestadu prasantham..
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Tingari_xx
Bewarse Legend
Username: Tingari_xx
Post Number: 51988
Registered: 08-2006
Posted From: 76.109.163.196
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2017 - 1:11 pm: |
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Prasanth:SPB ante enduku antha kaksha gattaavu MF uncle
music rao gorni inko sari ban seyalsina time vachindi. |
Musicfan
Bewarse Legend
Username: Musicfan
Post Number: 61552
Registered: 05-2004
Posted From: 63.169.138.2
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2017 - 1:07 pm: |
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Prasanth:SPB ante enduku antha kaksha gattaavu MF uncle
Vyaktigatam gaa emi ledu Prasantham, Artist ki respect param gaa both are same to me.
Issue ikkada IR ki favor gaa undi matter antavarake.. If SPB was right, would have supported him.. Collect chesina info pedtanna, people are taking sides without knowing background of the real issue..
Its unfortunate that this came public.. First ye cheppa idi..
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Kubang
Celebrity Bewarse
Username: Kubang
Post Number: 33698
Registered: 09-2011
Posted From: 161.141.1.1
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2017 - 1:07 pm: |
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Prasanth:SPB ante enduku antha kaksha gattaavu MF uncle
SPB is clearly wrong in this issue
Ignorance is bliss
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Prasanth
Censor Bewarse
Username: Prasanth
Post Number: 78409
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 27.59.26.89
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2017 - 1:00 pm: |
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SPB ante enduku antha kaksha gattaavu MF uncle
Peddha heroes ani comment cheste matram dappu kottaru apudu
telugu biDDa (staying in bangalore and from vijayawada)
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Musicfan
Bewarse Legend
Username: Musicfan
Post Number: 61551
Registered: 05-2004
Posted From: 63.169.138.2
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2017 - 12:25 pm: |
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Kubang:
SPB, FB lo dont make this IR vs SPB issue anta, statement..
maree janalu oka maadiri gaa kooda kanapadaledu..
Facts are always harsh..
Lakshman sruti orchestra lo lakshman ki IR clear gaa cheppadanta, I dont need any money from anyone, but IPRS is cheating lets stream line annadanta.
Ninna Tammareddy kooda whats happening to rest of the money that IPRS is collecting ani adigadu..
IR is fighting on that only.. He asked Most of tamil singing troupes to stop paying to IPRS until this is sorted out ani Lakshman antannadu
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Kubang
Celebrity Bewarse
Username: Kubang
Post Number: 33694
Registered: 09-2011
Posted From: 161.141.1.1
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2017 - 11:20 am: |
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Musicfan:Basic gaa SPB ati vinayam natinchi andariki chevilo pedda flower ettadu
 my respect to him diminished from this episode. also last year padutha theeyaga finals judgment atrocious.
Ignorance is bliss
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Musicfan
Bewarse Legend
Username: Musicfan
Post Number: 61545
Registered: 05-2004
Posted From: 63.169.138.2
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2017 - 10:03 am: |
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Basic gaa SPB ati vinayam natinchi andariki chevilo pedda flower ettadu
If its God's decision, I will abide ani...
I couldn't stop laughing reading that FB post..
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Musicfan
Bewarse Legend
Username: Musicfan
Post Number: 61544
Registered: 05-2004
Posted From: 73.191.151.120
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2017 - 9:52 am: |
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Kishorek111:veeti midha maa lanti vallu chala mandiki no idea.. so light veyochhu kada?
Q: Is it true SPB cannot sing IR songs any more
A: No, he can always sing as long as he has prior permission taken or royalty paid.
Q: Why SPB says he can sing other music directors songs?
A: He is acting smart, If he cannot sing one MD's songs, he cannot sing others without permission. The same copy right act applies to all music directors songs. Since IR has major share is fighting for everyone. ARR too has copyright for his songs.
Q: Did IR sent notice to SPB?
A: No. IR's legal counsel in USA, sent notice to organizers. Since SPB's son was one of the organizer, he took it to himself.
Q: Why the notices served only in US, why not other countries, when SPB was touring many countries
A: IR hired local lawyers everywhere, but in USA copy right is taken seriously, so the local lawyers took notice of the major event and served notices. It might be possible IR might not even know about this.
Q: Why SPB took this as SPB vs IR issue.
A: To get sympathy out of it. As usual when emotion plays than logic, people forget about actual issue and take sides to become judgmental. People blaming IR is complete non-sense.
Q: Is it true as mentioned by SPB that he is not aware and ignorant?
A: No. IR held a meeting with around 1000 performers in 2015 and discussed this issue. Same year he held press meeting and told everyone about the rules. He also filed a case when Echo company was trying to sell rights to other companies and he won the case to retain the music rights. SPB being in music field should be definitely aware of these happenings.
Also paying to IPRS whenever there is a concert is going on for long time. Even lyricists, composers, producers are getting checks from IPRS for long time now.
Q: Why IR is realizing about copy rights now not earlier.
A: In 2015, he realized how #IPRS ( Indian Performing Rights Society.. ) is cheating all music directors, he took up the cause to fight for every one. #IPRS collects around 85 crores but paid IR only 13 lakhs in an year. Lakshman-Shruthi were the mediators between IR and other singing troupes in Tamilnadu. Since then he is representing the music directors and fighting for them. His idea is to streamline the process.
Q. What is current Indian copy Right law for movie music
A: The current copy right act gives producer/music company 50%, Music director 25% and lyricist 25%, however if Music director gets the right as well then he gets 75%. ARR in 2012 got it amended to get music director the right instead of Producer after 5 years of movie released.
Q: Does it mean no one can sing any song in public?
A: No, unless there is huge commercial gain out of it, there is no issue in singing song at any place. Music directors wont claim if one is singing in temples or non-commercial purpose or for review, analysis, teaching, research or even minute commercial gains are fine.
Q: Are singers included in copy right act?
A: No, Unfortunately, singers are not. This was in discussion during Rafi/Lata times. Rafi didnt want it but Lata wanted singers to be included, even Yesudas too didnt want the royalt. Also many other singers formed a group and fought, None of them were successful in amending the law which enables the singers to get royalty.
Q: Is it applicable only in South/Tamil?
A: No, some music directors like #ARR are very clear on these rights. They have clear contracts which gives them rights. Same is with #Shankar-Ehsaan-Loy. In stage shows, they sing their own songs. Also these directors can use same tunes in other languages. Pritam once complained that Mika Singh made 15 crores out of a song thru stage shows when he was paid 10 lakhs to sing the song, where as Pritam made none. Its totally unfair.
Q: What will happen next.
A: The awareness that Indian music directors should get the royalty has caught everyone's attention. Thanks to SPB. Now, music directors will get money at-least. Probably IPRS will be taken over by some other society or Government will intervene to form a different society.
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Kishorek111
Kurra Bewarse
Username: Kishorek111
Post Number: 1818
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 216.34.141.80
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2017 - 2:21 am: |
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//Issue meeda avagahana lenollandirini panel ki pilavadementra gutle ABN..//
//2012 lo ARR ammendment teeskoste ARR ni vadilesi IR meeda paddarento janalu..//
veeti midha maa lanti vallu chala mandiki no idea.. so light veyochhu kada? |
Musicfan
Bewarse Legend
Username: Musicfan
Post Number: 61525
Registered: 05-2004
Posted From: 63.169.138.2
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2017 - 9:57 am: |
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2012 lo ARR ammendment teeskoste ARR ni vadilesi IR meeda paddarento janalu..
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Musicfan
Bewarse Legend
Username: Musicfan
Post Number: 61524
Registered: 05-2004
Posted From: 63.169.138.2
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2017 - 9:56 am: |
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aa legal expert evado bhale comedy, tammareddy adigina questions ki blank face edtaadu
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Musicfan
Bewarse Legend
Username: Musicfan
Post Number: 61523
Registered: 05-2004
Posted From: 63.169.138.2
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2017 - 9:55 am: |
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Issue meeda avagahana lenollandirini panel ki pilavadementra gutle ABN..
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Musicfan
Bewarse Legend
Username: Musicfan
Post Number: 61522
Registered: 05-2004
Posted From: 63.169.138.2
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2017 - 9:54 am: |
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ninna ABN panel ki vachadu to discuss on music copy right issue..
eedu inta item ani naaku ippati varaku teliyadu,
malla eedu Dasari tarvata aa status unna vyakti to resolve issues anta,
Issue artham kakunda emi resolve chestadu?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iikhSSpLQ4g
Aa Suresh, Sridhar inka over, vayinchina vadiki kooda ivvali anta,
ellaki IP rights ante emi artham ayinattu ledu
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